Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Voting for UKIP won't change anything. Only a government can change the things you dislike. UKIP are a protest party but won't have any power. If you want these things changed then vote for a strong government. A Conservative clear majority would make it possible to make the changes. Other combinations will not.

The other combinations are

Labour majority - no change
Various coalitions - no change

hay , Cameron is a liar on giving us a vote of in out it would not happen ,
the eu is a stinking rotten band of crooks and not good for the uk people
why can any scum come to the uk and get free medical and we have to pay in all eu countries it stinks and we want out .

Of course there would be a referendum. He would have such a back bench revolt if he didn't. You have no reason to think that he won't give the vote

hay tell me and the rest of this bb what the brittish public get out of being in the eu because I can thing of only one thing the scum .

now is your chance to tell all on this bb

hays yes their may be a vote but not in or out

You don't have to pay in EU countries for medical care. Just get a free EHIC card. It entitles you to free medical care in the EU. I have used it and found it works fine.

I take out travel insurance as well as do visitors to the UK.

http://www.nhs.uk/NHSEngland/Healthcareabroad/EHIC/Pages/about-the-ehic.aspx

Haze,

If what you wrote is true, why is Wavy Dave Jumping to Nigel Farage's tune?

Farage has got Cameron like a monkey on a string.

Of course it will be IN or OUT. The trouble is that you may not like the result. The balance is pretty even at present and any improvements to our deal will tip it decidedly towards IN.

hays you are wrong the e111 is for only minor and I do travel a lot and they will not except the card the doctor wants cash or your insurance .
Poland as no free health for any non polish to go to Germany want insurance docs
Portugal the same Italy want cash and docs .

65% want out that is what the pols say and getting higher ever day
I know no one who wants to stay in

I may well vote OUT, but that may not be the majority view. You don't want a vote, you want to leave.

Even UKIP could not take us out out of the EU. They would require a vote in the commons, which would not succeed unless there had been a referendum. In a referendum, they might well lose the argument. It was only a couple of weeks ago that the majority wanted to stay in. Currently the majority wants out, but that is temporary and due to the recent EU bill. The public are notoriously fickle. In a few weeks it will be wanting to stay in again.

I don't want to name drop for my Dad , but when he was based at Lark Hill, Army camp in 1939 , he use to see Lawrence of Arabia eating in the canteen there, when Lawrence re-enlisted . Said he was slim with fair hair.

The Guru writes!

E111 does not exist anymore. It is EHIC now and it is not just for minors. My whole family has a card.

that is exactly what i thought too MrT, which makes one wonder why the french allow the existence of sangatte, as many of these people got there via italy and the like

This is 6 days ago. As you can see the in/out vote is up and down and NOT your 65% for out.

http://yougov.co.uk/news/2014/10/30/voters-shift-sharply-against-eu-membership/

The remarkable thing about our EU referendum tracker is how much it moves. Within the last year we've had a ten-point lead for staying in, and a ten-point lead for leaving.

A week ago 41 per cent said they would vote to stay in, and 40 per cent said they would leave. Exclusively for Red Box, YouGov asked the question just four days later, and those numbers have moved to 35 per cent and 44 per cent, a 9 per cent lead for "out".

Johnny Foreigner doesn't play by the rules , we should know that by now. Even the German's don't follow the rules now [ rules that must be obeyed ]

Haystack,

The wording of that survey in your chart above is too ambiguous imo, as it doesn't explain what question will be asked of the electorate in a referendum.

There was an article in The Economist around the time of the Scottish referendum which explained how the wording of a question can affect the outcome. If the Scots had been asked 'Do you think Scotland should leave the UK' (which is what Salmond wanted), it would have resulted in a higher yes vote than the actual question of 'Should Scotland leave the UK' (which is what Cameron told them they had to have). As an example, if a surgeon tells his patients there's a 95% survival rate from an operation, more people will have the op than if the surgeon tells them there's a 5% mortality rate.

Conducting a poll to ask folks how they would vote, without telling them what the exact question is, will produce an inaccurate outcome.

€U in out question: YES or NO

Choose one option:


YES .. I would like to remain in the €U

NO ... I would like the Gov to make the decision for me

True. However, it is still clear that sentiment is changing all the time and the public might well vote to stay in.