EWRobson
- 09 Sep 2004 19:13
Header updated on 24th April 2008
Market has been looking for an announcement re a licensing deal for Cetilistat, the obesity drug; instead it has been hit with the withdrawal of Renzapride, colonitis drug, following an unauspicious performance at Phase III. Folloiwng has been edited to reflect the situation
Alizyme is a speciality biopharmaceutical company that has been developing product categories for inflammatory gastrointestinal disorders, obesity and supportive cancer care . It is currently trading at a five year low of around 27p with a market cap. of around 60m. Prudential owned a near 20% stake (reduced in sale today?) There was good institutional taku-up of a placing in March rasing 10m at 50p; no wonder there has been "angry" selling. The directors hold 3.34million shares or about 1.7% of the equity (of which Tim McCarthy, CEO has 1.1million); thus, after some 10 years of development effort, they must be comletely focused on the success of the company and multiplying the value of their holdings (but with real doubts about their marketing competence). Alizyme had previously raised capital sums in the past three years at around 70p and 100p so it was somewhat surprising to see the share fall through its 70p support level. Clearly one reason is the current disaffection with the biopharm. market. Another has to be disappointment for the failure of the CEO, Tim McCarthy, to deliver on his expectation that 2007 would be a transformative year. The key question is whether 2008 will be that year and when is it likely to happen? The following points are relevant:
1. Alizyme did sign one deal in late-2007: with Prometheus Labs (U.S.) for the Colal-Pred, at a potential market of $250m, the smallest potential of their four products. Prometheus pay $2.5m up-front with a total of $15m payable upon future development milestones. They are responsible for all US development costs and will pay Alizyme undisclosed royalty rates which will increase with net sales. The deal was followed by a Japanese licensing agreement (which also gave Alizymen access to additional potential drug candidates).
2. This perhaps sets a precedent for subsequent deals for their other products. Cetistat (obesity) has an estimated potential of $1 billion p.a. sales and ATL-104 (mucositis) has a potential of $500m sales. The U.S. FDA has encouraged AZM to also launch a Phase III exercise for Cetistat for all diabetes sufferer because of positive II results for diabetes sufferers who also suffer from obesity.
3. Whilst the development programmes for the other drugs are on-going and appear to be satisfactorily funded from present resources, this is not the case for Cetilistat. The "Product and Company Update statement" (7th Jan 2008) says that 'the Phase III development programme is now ready to commence following the conclusion of a commercial deal'. So, perhaps for the first time, the development programme would be delayed if there was not a funding deal in either the U.S. or Europe. The reason for the sp shooting to nearly 200p in 2004 was the signing of a deal with Takada of Japan for some $50M development funding.
In response to a question at the Conference to report the Renzapride fiasco, McCarthy seemed pleased that there were six potential bidders for Cetilistat; however, that implies any announcement is some time away. When it comes, however, taking a line from the Takada and Prometheus deals it would seem likely that there would be of the order of $100m funding to support development. Of course, the major cash flow will be from licensing of actual sales. The analysts do their own discounted cash flow exercises; those seen tend to dwarf current valuations of the company.
There is not a strong argument for jumping in unless and until the sp establishes a baseline. Given the peaks in the sp, the time will probably come when there will be a very significant jump. An alternative scenario, is that management continue to rpove their level of incompetence and a buy-our results. Clearly the strength of the company is in their biochemists.
Eric

EWRobson
- 10 Jan 2008 13:39
- 495 of 718
Kivver: not absolutely sure about closed time periods but I'm pretty certain that directors can't invest until results are out; e.g. Just Retirement directors have piled in following the drop with results.
Suggest we really take on board the posting at 487 by Ludlow Castle. Its clear that some have lost patience. 2007 was supposed to be breakthrough year but all we had was the US and Japanese deals for COLAL-PRED, the smallest of their portfolio. Those numbers didn't look very big but if you work on the basis that they represent a minimum of 1/11th of the potential the minimum value of the company must be at least 100p per share if not double that. I can show the calculations if anyone feels it would help. The cap is now down to under £100m when you have 1 billion dollar blockbusters! They are now having to mark time with Cetilistat awaiting partner(s) so there is, for the first time, pressure to get the deal(s) done. The darkest period comes just before the dawn!
Eric
Nar1
- 10 Jan 2008 13:55
- 496 of 718
Whats the bottom looks like we just broke thru 46p MACD and MA all NEGATIVE !!!
Kivver
- 10 Jan 2008 14:22
- 497 of 718
I also do not understand why price has fallen so much with so little volume selling yesterday and today. 700,000 shares traded is miniscule. All I know is the market makers are not getting my shares at that price!! Probably more fool me than them!
Nar1
- 10 Jan 2008 19:52
- 498 of 718
Well the graph does not lie my friend AZM is coming/ has come down and fast the question now is when will it stop and when shall we all buy back in and make a tidy profit !!!
Nar1
- 10 Jan 2008 19:56
- 499 of 718
MACD negative,
150 / 200 negative,
RSI still got space to go,
TRIX negative. ( rejected cross over)
EWRobson
- 10 Jan 2008 22:08
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I have made this comment before about price movements with AZM. Many days when the price has fallen there has actually been a balance in buying and selling. The phenomenon that is repeatedly the case with AZM is that nearly all the sales are automated. It could well be the case is that a trader(s) is playing the system: he sells short in relatively small quantities, waits for the price to fall and buys back in a lump.
What you would expect is that the price gets to a sufficiently low level for the value buyers to climb on-board, thus reversing the trend and causing a significant bounce. Am I saying that there is little risk in buying at this level. My only concern would be whether someone knows something that I don't, i.e. there are sound reasons for the sale off. The only reason for that is that the market doesn't believe that they will get a decent sum from partnering the products. But if they decided to auction the company off, what would the price be: I suggest it would be driven over 2. So my conclusion is that the bounce will come, sooner rather than later.
Eric
Nar1
- 25 Jan 2008 22:07
- 501 of 718
Well I got back in this been watching this for far too long to miss out, a drop is possible and so is a short term bounce !!
As stated at these prices it seems rude not to buy with such potential behind this stock even if it does fall and you top up again at the bottom I think you still be laughing long term !!!! and if you it does not we should see a gradual raise in SP...
MACD is about to cross over and RSI is over sold !!
EWRobson
- 30 Jan 2008 16:25
- 502 of 718
Felt you were a bit lonely sitting here, NAR. Agree negative momentum run out of steam. So in with a decent, for me, CFD for 24K shares. Will follow up tomorrow with justification. Essentially, I cant believe the shares have become so cheap without good reason.
Eric
Fred1new
- 30 Jan 2008 16:39
- 503 of 718
There is always a reason!
Results out 19/2/08 Pobably poorer than projected. Also interesting to see cash burn.
The chart says further to drop. Like today.
cynic
- 30 Jan 2008 16:54
- 504 of 718
not impossible that fall of the last few days is partly in sympathy with that suffered by Shire
however, rather in passing, back on 10th October, someone whose name i have forgotten, suggested the following for the next 12 months .....
AZM then 80.0p now 40.5p
OXB then 35.75p now 18.25p
VIY then 9.25p now 6.25p
BLZ then 67.25p now 48.0p
BVC then 31.0p now 33.0p
truly not trying to make (or even lose!) capital over the performance, but just thought i would post for general interest
Fred1new
- 30 Jan 2008 18:18
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Not me guv. But I have a strong suspicion!
I tihnk it wiser to see results and await product proof, which I have doubts about!
Kivver
- 31 Jan 2008 12:19
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I cant help thinking if this was such a fantastic product the vultures would be in this to buy it out at this price. Ive always said I was in this for all or nothing, I am fearing the worst. I know you need time a patience but this is wearing a bit thin.
Can anyone give examples a pharma or bio company whose SP has dropped dramatically to come storming back when the product comes to the market?
cynic
- 31 Jan 2008 12:23
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i suspect Shire but you'll have to trawl back over several years to see the volatility
EWRobson
- 31 Jan 2008 18:43
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Kivver Have a look at GW Pharma. Price fell quite heavily last year but has recovered sharply with licensing agreements in last month or so.
My own view, and I have put my money where my mouth is, is that the price fall has next to nothing to do with the company's development programme and is very largely a matter of trading down. The major investors are staying on board: in the last four months or so, Prudential, Morgan Stanley, L&G and ABN/AMRO have all passed a reporting point (going upwards) and collectively account for 25% of the equity. OK, management have been trying to set up licensing deals but it is only now, for the first time, that product development will be delayed if they don't finalise a Cetilistat deal by April. So I expect an announcement either with the Prelims in February or, at any rate, by March.
Have just dug out an old Evolution report which gives a growth profile in revenues through 2014 to justify a price of 136p based on Cetilistat (effectively ignoring the other 3 products). I will be disappointed if it only get that far this year.
Eric
cynic
- 31 Jan 2008 19:12
- 509 of 718
by the sounds of it, you are relying on old data - i.e. broker reports etc that came before recent meltdown ...... you are also banking heavily that GWP will tie up the mentioned deal before April .... if they do not, then expect serious bloodshed anyway ..... other than that, at the mo, pharmas in general are bad news and really not the sector to be in
Fred1new
- 31 Jan 2008 19:33
- 510 of 718
Their possible products often have problems when used in "treatments". There are also numerous drugs on the market for the said "conditions". The drugs proposed have yet to be cleared for use in humans.
To me it is pie in the sky.
A bit like SEO
Nar1
- 31 Jan 2008 20:29
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Well either way someone once told me you should only invest what you are willing to loose
EWRobson
- 01 Feb 2008 10:19
- 512 of 718
cynic I accept that pharmas are generally considered bad news at present. But, as often happens, a sector gets oversold: there are clearly opportunities in land and builders at present, even banks. My point about GW Pharma is that it shows that stock pickers will take a jump up when a re-evaluation should be made, in that case on the announcement of the sort of deal that should be forthcoming on Cetilistat. What you call old broker news was in fact an analysis of the fundamentals re potential forward cash flow for Cetistat. The fundamentals tend to remain pretty stable, given a consistent reading on the market in relation to competetive products. The research news from AZM has been pretty consistent. The strength of AZM is clearly their research team - they have had consistent results with the development of all four products over the last 10 years. The risk in terms of the deal for Cetistat, in particular, clearly relate to the financial terms of deal(s) and timing. Even a deal at the lower end of the spectrum must be very good for the sp as the current cap. is under 80m and we are talking about a billion dollar blockbuster: front-end funds should at least pay for later stage development then you have a royalty flow, perhaps of the order of 150K per annum. Timing? My point is that, for the first time, management have an incentive to close a deal, otherwise they will be marking time from April.
Eric
cynic
- 01 Feb 2008 11:29
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or even looking for new employment! ...... be very very careful in the current markets ..... i am 95%+ certain that we have yet to see the bottom, though i would not like to hazard a guess as to where that might be or even when
Nar1
- 01 Feb 2008 12:13
- 514 of 718
We are BLUE - anyone here got Level 2