Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

the 1.7b that the eu says yhe the uk must pay is a con it was dreamed up by Cameron and eu leaders for Cameron to get it down 60% and for him to say we have won its all about the eu wanting the uk to stay in the eu and get Cameron back in power a bloody con trick

I wonder if the Daily Mail is playing to the Rothermere's card as they did in the 1930s.

Is the antagonism or fear of Ed Milliband of a similar nature?

It certainly has the same smell around its smearing as it did then.

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Anyway back to Hazyone's dear leader, he does seem to be doing a wonderful job alienating everybody at Helsinki.

Better send Haque, or perhaps the whip handler Theresa, that will sort them out.


But, perhaps the latter should spend more time sorting out the problems she is creating at the home office and clarify the little problems she has of counting "them" in and out of the country!

i recollect cynically suggesting something similar a couple of weeks back :-)
we shall see

Wait for Call Me Dave to get off the aircraft waving a piece of paper saying

"peace in our time"

Manuel,

I did note your remark and thought similarly about some public of the public's reaction now to E.M..

Stinks.

GF

Serious question for you.....

How do you rate the chances of Chucka Umuna (sorry, I've just remembered there's no 'c' in his name) Chuka Umuna becoming leader of the Labour Party instead of Ded MillyBoringBellyBand?

Umuna is a good looking guy, with tons more presence and charisma and would surely get much more support. I've seen him and heard him on QT and he is quite likeable, really. IMHO, Umuna is much more of a leader and a winner too.

In fact, the only thing going against him is his patch, which is Streatham, London, and not one of the northern terriories. Could he not be encouraged to go on visits 'up north' and then that problem would be sorted?

Anyhow, I like him tons more than EM and I'm sure everyone feels the same.

And can you 'c' how easy it is to remember his name?

now try that in english and perhaps with your teeth in! :-)

In case you mean me, I've got my teeth in. :-)

lol

Max,

The difference between then and now is fortress Britain is without allies abroad, unless we pal up with Russia.

The states want us in EU as a helping bridge, but the want and don't need such.

The "common wealth" are "free traders", but look back at the "Free Traders" in the UK and I think you will see the way UKIP will go, but hopefully to a different party than some chose previously.

Exec hes a very intelligent young man with all the credentials for BECOMING a leader but not just yet, he needs to get some sparring in with the Unions first, you know become a little bit more street wize aware.

Lets face it with all this pressure on Milli youd think the Tories would be streaking away but the latest 2 polls show Labour 1 point ahead on the Sun poll and 4 points ahead on another one someone mentioned on twitter.

In another weeks time cameron will be facing the same pressure as Milliband going up to the Reckles By election, will he be ahead in the polls I very much doubt it and see the Tories dropping back to say 4 or 5 points again.

Dont forget Im not really anti Torry just cant stand this present bunch and hence my defection to Labour.

Cyners see BLT base forming.

Doc,

When you say "Umuna is a good looking guy", is there summat you're not telling us?

:o)

Foreign doctor Daniel Ubani successfully sues the son of the pensioner that he killed



Pavan Amara

Thursday 06 November 2014



A foreign doctor has successfully sued the son of a man he killed, for thousands of pounds in legal fees.

Daniel Ubani administered pensioner David Gray with a lethal drug overdose in 2008, but now a German court has ordered Gray’s family to pay the doctor’s court costs and write a letter of apology to him.

Ubani, a German citizen, had made the deadly decision during his first shift working as a locum doctor in the UK.

Following the death, he was struck off the UK medical register, but still practises as a doctor in Germany.


Mr Gray’s two sons, Rory and Stuart, say they have been campaigning for justice since their father’s death. In 2010, the brothers attended a medical conference were Ubani was present and called him “a charlatan”, “a killer”, and an “animal”.



more: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/foreign-doctor-successfully-sues-the-son-of-the-pensioner-that-he-killed-9845355.html

Manuel,

"for sure the tories will be fighting hard for EM to stay in place"


Looking at the rags Mail and Telegraph it would appear that they are trying to undermine E.M. at every possible step.

To me, it would seem that they, Hazyone and the tory dirty tricks' office are frightened of him.

But, why should he do anything other than watch the government implode.

I think for the time being it is time for Labour to consider their position, bolster their defences, look at overall strategy and beware of falling into the traps of dirty politics.

Their position is strong and Cameron knows it and is thrashing about in his own self made jungle.

A game to watch with interest.

There is still time for the lesser spotted millibandus to be replaced.

Not a good scenario for the tory's as they might get someone who actually knows what they are doing.

The timing is all wrong, the new year is when the big guns will turn on Ed.

Hils

Not really. But I don't knock 'it' because I've never tried 'it'. ;-)

But Umuna does have 'presence' and easily seems to command lots of respect.

Perhaps, as GF tells us, at this stage in his political career, it is far too early days for him.

Worth a read: http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/sep/24/john-prescott-labour-chuka-umunna-chumbawamba#start-of-comments

fred - if DM was at the helm, labour would be a shoo-in ..... as it is, they find themselves with a millstone (and the wrong miliband) round their necks ..... i bet the tories are campaigning hard to give unite and similar hard-left unions even more power in choosing the labour leader!


EL - on the couple of occasions i have seen that chap on television, i totally agree ..... he presents very well indeed and if labour lose the next election, he may just get the job, giving the party faithful time to get used to the idea of having a black immigrant leader!

I don't think the British would welcome a coloured prime minister for another couple of decades. It's not like the US where a much higher percentage of the population is non-white, and look at the struggle Barry The Kenyan faced to get into the Oval Office. And let's face it, a high percentage of Brits are pretty racist as demonstrated by the support UKIP is getting.

So, it's not just too early for Umuna imo, it's too early for Britain as a whole.

What have the objectives of ukip got to do with racism?