Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

And many Labour MP's are closet Torys by the life styles they lead in private

Of course UKIP members and supporters are a racist bunch. You've only got to look at their demographics to understand that - white British, predominantly male, mostly over 60, Daily Mail readers. And where does the moronic TANKER fit into that list exactly?

What a skewed view of the world you have Hilly.

It's fact, Max. Smell the coffee!!!

"Ashcroft also asked how some of the things that might stop people voting UKIP. The statements that UKIP considers agreed with least were the statements that UKIP seem “quite old fashioned”, or “seem a bit racist” – hardly surprising given the elderly age profile of UKIP supporters, their support for things being as they used to be and opposition to immigration – such voters are highly unlikely to see being anti-immigration as racist or being a bit old fashioned as a bad thing. The most agreed with statements were tactical ones about voting UKIP letting a party they didn’t like win their local seat or form the government."

UKIP has partly been successful as it has given racists a chance to be semirespectable and mainstream.

http://metro.co.uk/2014/11/06/ebola-panic-on-nudist-beach-after-illegal-immigrants-turn-up-showing-signs-of-fever-4937645/

No… I said I have a boner! Nudist beach cleared in Ebola scare

What has racism got to do with the desire to get out of the €U?

Well if you did a bit of research, you'd realise that the average geriatric UKIP supporter is actually anti non-EU immigration and simply wants to wind the clock back a decade or two, but that they're too stupid to realise that there's a difference between that and free movement of EU citizens. Surveys have shown that an EU referendum is not the sort of elixir amongst UKIP supporters that many consider it to be.

ok hilly, have it your way.

Lot of arguing going off today spats all over the place, calm down, calm down. Calm down the lot of you.

Wouldnt get me arguing, far to refined for that.

Cynic I blame you.

Bank a little of your profits, Ive just shut 40 grand away. Make you feel a lot better.

In the early days, UKIP was very racist. They have reinvented themselves and toned down the rhetoric but there is still the same racist undercurrent.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/UK_Independence_Party

UKIP candidates stood in the 1997 general election, but were overshadowed by James Goldsmith's Referendum Party. (The Referendum Party contested 547 seats. In the 165 seats contested by both, the Referendum Party beat UKIP in all but two - Romsey and Glasgow Anniesland, the latter by just two votes.)[21]

After the election, Sked resigned from the leadership and left the party because, he said, it contained members who "are racist and have been infected by the far-right"[22] and was "doomed to remain on the political fringes".[23] However, Goldsmith died soon after the election and the Referendum Party was dissolved, with a resulting influx of new UKIP supporters.

Sold BVIC took the top off CLIN.

Cant use the Chart thread anymore it just gets trashed by the chuckle brothers and aldwick, so any general items Ill stick them here instead.

Voters Say Labour More Likely to Win if They Sack Ed





A massive 49% of voters say Labour would be more likely to win the election if they sack Ed Miliband and replace him with someone else. This morning’s damning YouGov poll for LBC says just 5% believe slotting the Ed now would harm Labour’s chances, compared with nearly half saying it would boost the party.



more: http://order-order.com/

YouGov a right wing organisation.

Pay no attention.

Camoron will win the GE for Ed, thats for sure.

http://order-order.com/2014/11/07/audio-shadow-cabinet-minister-warns-labour-is-dying/

Nothing compared to the 120 back benches (tories) that hate camoron. In fact detest the man.

cynic Send an email to cynic View cynic's profile - 07 Nov 2014 09:57 - 49529 of 49550

fred - if DM was at the helm, labour would be a shoo-in ..... as it is, they find themselves with a millstone (and the wrong miliband) round their necks ..... i bet the tories are campaigning hard to give unite and similar hard-left unions even more power in choosing the labour leader!


The media and dirty tricks office would be playing the same smearing against David as they are about ED.

The only differences I see, is that David is more TV presentable and appears more fluent as he hasn't the Ed's nasal impediment. (Just one more bridge to cross.)
They are ideologically very similar views.

(I have 4 daughters who scrapped when they were growing up, but are closer and helpful and caring to one another than ever. They enjoy one another’s success and are not stunted, as some appear to be, by past rivalries.)
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I think Hilary is correct in post 49530.

Uma seems very sensible and thoughtful, but not sure whether the voters are ready to accept him in that role. Ed has same problem to lesser degree at the moment.

Also, agree with her that UKIP is trading on racist emotions and individuals who want to have somebody to blame or scapegoat for their own inadequacies.
Farage, is depending on this to help in his “race” to power.

My guess it is beginning to blow back in his face!

Cameron has been suckered into the game.
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Haze,

I have just watched the video of QT and thought it one of the most sensible and thoughtful programme QT I have watched for a long time.

Not rabble rousing and even the tory seems to have adopted a centralist position.

Even found myself agreeing with Melanie Philips more times than I thought I would ever do.

goldfinger

Why don't YOU calm down , you were very cool when you were Slater in your younger day's

Doodlebug challenged to a gentlemans bet on the flyb board. Will he chicken out?????????