goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
Haystack
- 07 Nov 2014 10:33
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MaxK
- 07 Nov 2014 10:37
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What has racism got to do with the desire to get out of the €U?
hilary
- 07 Nov 2014 10:44
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Well if you did a bit of research, you'd realise that the average geriatric UKIP supporter is actually anti non-EU immigration and simply wants to wind the clock back a decade or two, but that they're too stupid to realise that there's a difference between that and free movement of EU citizens. Surveys have shown that an EU referendum is not the sort of elixir amongst UKIP supporters that many consider it to be.
MaxK
- 07 Nov 2014 10:50
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ok hilly, have it your way.
goldfinger
- 07 Nov 2014 10:51
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Lot of arguing going off today spats all over the place, calm down, calm down. Calm down the lot of you.
Wouldnt get me arguing, far to refined for that.
Cynic I blame you.
Bank a little of your profits, Ive just shut 40 grand away. Make you feel a lot better.
MaxK
- 07 Nov 2014 10:53
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Haystack
- 07 Nov 2014 10:54
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In the early days, UKIP was very racist. They have reinvented themselves and toned down the rhetoric but there is still the same racist undercurrent.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/UK_Independence_Party
UKIP candidates stood in the 1997 general election, but were overshadowed by James Goldsmith's Referendum Party. (The Referendum Party contested 547 seats. In the 165 seats contested by both, the Referendum Party beat UKIP in all but two - Romsey and Glasgow Anniesland, the latter by just two votes.)[21]
After the election, Sked resigned from the leadership and left the party because, he said, it contained members who "are racist and have been infected by the far-right"[22] and was "doomed to remain on the political fringes".[23] However, Goldsmith died soon after the election and the Referendum Party was dissolved, with a resulting influx of new UKIP supporters.
goldfinger
- 07 Nov 2014 10:54
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Sold BVIC took the top off CLIN.
Cant use the Chart thread anymore it just gets trashed by the chuckle brothers and aldwick, so any general items Ill stick them here instead.
MaxK
- 07 Nov 2014 10:55
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Voters Say Labour More Likely to Win if They Sack Ed
A massive 49% of voters say Labour would be more likely to win the election if they sack Ed Miliband and replace him with someone else. This morning’s damning YouGov poll for LBC says just 5% believe slotting the Ed now would harm Labour’s chances, compared with nearly half saying it would boost the party.
more:
http://order-order.com/
goldfinger
- 07 Nov 2014 10:57
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YouGov a right wing organisation.
Pay no attention.
Camoron will win the GE for Ed, thats for sure.
Haystack
- 07 Nov 2014 10:57
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goldfinger
- 07 Nov 2014 11:31
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Nothing compared to the 120 back benches (tories) that hate camoron. In fact detest the man.
Fred1new
- 07 Nov 2014 11:32
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cynic Send an email to cynic View cynic's profile - 07 Nov 2014 09:57 - 49529 of 49550
fred - if DM was at the helm, labour would be a shoo-in ..... as it is, they find themselves with a millstone (and the wrong miliband) round their necks ..... i bet the tories are campaigning hard to give unite and similar hard-left unions even more power in choosing the labour leader!
The media and dirty tricks office would be playing the same smearing against David as they are about ED.
The only differences I see, is that David is more TV presentable and appears more fluent as he hasn't the Ed's nasal impediment. (Just one more bridge to cross.)
They are ideologically very similar views.
(I have 4 daughters who scrapped when they were growing up, but are closer and helpful and caring to one another than ever. They enjoy one another’s success and are not stunted, as some appear to be, by past rivalries.)
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I think Hilary is correct in post 49530.
Uma seems very sensible and thoughtful, but not sure whether the voters are ready to accept him in that role. Ed has same problem to lesser degree at the moment.
Also, agree with her that UKIP is trading on racist emotions and individuals who want to have somebody to blame or scapegoat for their own inadequacies.
Farage, is depending on this to help in his “race” to power.
My guess it is beginning to blow back in his face!
Cameron has been suckered into the game.
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Haze,
I have just watched the video of QT and thought it one of the most sensible and thoughtful programme QT I have watched for a long time.
Not rabble rousing and even the tory seems to have adopted a centralist position.
Even found myself agreeing with Melanie Philips more times than I thought I would ever do.
aldwickk
- 07 Nov 2014 11:47
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goldfinger
Why don't YOU calm down , you were very cool when you were Slater in your younger day's
goldfinger
- 07 Nov 2014 11:54
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Doodlebug challenged to a gentlemans bet on the flyb board. Will he chicken out?????????
Haystack
- 07 Nov 2014 12:07
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Fred1new
- 07 Nov 2014 12:10
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Fred1new
- 07 Nov 2014 12:10
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PS.
Haze.
While you are there is there anymore news about Hague not retiring and running for party leadership again!
Seems rumour is getting stronger.
Hope is hasn't dashed you hopes!
goldfinger
- 07 Nov 2014 12:10
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Hays you can slate Milly as much as you want with the aid of the right wing press but the fact is your still going to lose the GE.
Camoron is a far bigger liability and things arent going well at the EEC meeting.
Haystack
- 07 Nov 2014 12:13
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2823476/Ed-Miliband-s-poll-ratings-worse-Callaghan-Kinnock-Major-Hague-Howard-Brown-marched-parties-defeat.html
Panic in the Labour party: With six months until the election, Miliband's poll ratings are worse than Callaghan, Kinnock, Major, Hague, Howard and Brown before they ALL marched their parties to defeat