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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

cynic - 21 Aug 2016 17:28 - 4955 of 12628

i was not aware that this was also an ADVERTISING board

Fred1new - 22 Aug 2016 07:42 - 4956 of 12628

Fred1new - 22 Aug 2016 07:48 - 4957 of 12628

grannyboy - 22 Aug 2016 08:25 - 4958 of 12628

It's been reported that...

"There is still virtually nobody in Brussels who thinks that Brexit is a good idea"


Lolololololololololololololololololololololololol!!!!

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!

'VIRTUALLY' I'm surprised that it gives the impression that there is 'anyone',
that being the heart of the european dream..

jimmy b - 22 Aug 2016 08:37 - 4959 of 12628

That made me laugh too ,however have a look at this one from Saturdays paper .


How typical of the delusional world of the EU — one which, thankfully, Britain is escaping — that Brussels bureaucrats bent on creating a European superstate have produced an Olympics medals table lumping all 28 member nations together under the EU flag.
This folie de grandeur means the EU leads the medal table — above the U.S.! What’s more, it is doubly bogus since more than a quarter of the EU’s golds were won by Brits — representing a nation whose people can’t wait to leave such an arrogant and unaccountable organisation



VICTIM - 22 Aug 2016 10:18 - 4960 of 12628

I see Sturgeon is getting some stick from certain areas up there in Scotland .

VICTIM - 22 Aug 2016 10:20 - 4961 of 12628

Maybe we should start calling the EU , Euro Disney .

ExecLine - 22 Aug 2016 10:32 - 4962 of 12628

And make all EU Fridays 'Billy Fury' with 'Elvis' on a Wednesday.

grannyboy - 22 Aug 2016 10:46 - 4963 of 12628

HaHa..The EU claiming the credit for the gold medals won by countries
from Europe...Tells you their ideological project is still on track(pardon the pun)..

Haystack - 22 Aug 2016 11:11 - 4964 of 12628

If you calculate the medals from the British Empire then we are top.

grannyboy - 24 Aug 2016 07:23 - 4965 of 12628

What a cnut that Owen Smith is...He has the audacity to spout that over 400
MP's in the Houses of Parliament are against leaving the EU and that there
should be another referendum, totally ignoring the 17.4 MILLION who voted
to LEAVE that corrupt, undemocratic, unacountable organisation.


How arrogant and dismissive of the voters and democracy can the elite think
they can get away with.

MaxK - 24 Aug 2016 08:12 - 4966 of 12628

The euro has destroyed the €U and led directly to Brexit

Jeremy Warner
23 August 2016 • 7:23pm


They just don’t get it, do they? Of all the stupidities aired by EU policymakers in response to Britain’s referendum vote, there are two standouts.

One was the verdict of Herman Van Rompuy, former president of the European Council. Cameron’s decision to hold a referendum, he said, was “the worst policy decision in decades.

You’ll be relieved to learn that Jean-Claude Juncker, President of the European Commission (Europe manages to have no less than five separate presidents), doesn’t agree.

In fact, he says, “borders are the worst invention ever made by politicians”. This from someone who while prime minister of Luxembourg cynically used sovereign borders to make Luxembourg into Europe’s premier tax haven.

Even acknowledging that this latter remark was made in the context of the migrant crisis, it goes to the heart of what’s gone wrong with the European Union. For together with Mr Van Rompuy’s condescending dismissal of the democratic process, it displays a deep contempt at the heart of the European project for the collective will and concerns of the people.

As the economist Joseph Stiglitz, notes in a compellingly argued new book on the failure of the European project – The Euro, and its threat to the future of Europe – on virtually every occasion when voters have been directly consulted, they have rejected the idea of further integration.

And in each case, whether it was introduction of the Euro or reform of the constitution, they have been ignored.





The EU cannot stop Britain from leaving, but what it can do is turn a tin ear to the message that loud and clear Britain’s vote for Brexit has delivered – that Europe isn’t working and if it is to survive, then it must urgently reform.

On current evidence, it shows virtually no sign of doing so.


more: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/08/23/the-euro-has-destroyed-the-eu-and-led-directly-to-brexit/

grannyboy - 24 Aug 2016 08:33 - 4967 of 12628

I 've stated in the past that the bureaucrats in Brussels would rather see
europe collapse then to give up on their european dream.

MaxK - 24 Aug 2016 08:59 - 4968 of 12628

The sprouts will do whatever the fatherland tells them..Brussels is effectively controlled by Berlin, and dances to their tune.

There can be no other explanation to the stupidity that we see going on in €uroland.

Dil - 24 Aug 2016 09:07 - 4969 of 12628

Can't wait til the EU's new budget talks take place without Britain's huge subsidy. It'll be every man for himself and bollox to unity unless of course Germany agrees to stump up all of the missing cash (and that won't happen).

VICTIM - 24 Aug 2016 09:10 - 4970 of 12628

Yes the old lady in blue there doing more damage to Europe than Hitler , sounds daft but it is damage that is really going to be irreversible .

jimmy b - 24 Aug 2016 11:18 - 4971 of 12628

I just love it that we voted OUT ....

jimmy b - 24 Aug 2016 12:45 - 4972 of 12628

granny , Owen Smith , more to the point how thick must he be ? a huge number of Labour voters voted out ,does he think another referendum would win him an election ,and to think these morons want to run our country .

grannyboy - 24 Aug 2016 13:03 - 4973 of 12628

I to just love it that we voted out and don't have ANY voter remorse
whatsoever..

As to Owen Smith being thick...He's not thick just anti democratic, and
no different from the rest of the champagne socialist, at least Corbyn has
said that the people have spoken and the UK should LEAVE the EU.

cynic - 24 Aug 2016 13:19 - 4974 of 12628

you guys are hilarious

there are stupid ways of implementing "leave EU" like throwing all the toys out of the pram without properly thinking it through

and a more sensible approach to "leaving EU" wherein all aspects are properly considered and discussed - and with an end result with which no one is truly happy; ie a "good result"
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