Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Of course, that explains a lot. If Fred was gf's old dad that would explain the similarities in the looniness. Maybe gf is Fred's designated carer. Puts him in the shower, wipes his bottom, mops up the drool, changes the incontinence pants, scrubs his false teeth etc.

Changes the lassy band on his pony tail.

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Another delusion:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-29946827

Twitter

Ed Miliband pledges to fight election 'street by street'

There seems to be at least 250,000 streets in the UK. I think he may have his work cut out.

Haze,

Is this a close relation or a dream of yours?

49668 - not exactly, but it did highlight that all was not quite as black and white as you portrayed, which was why i wanted to watch the news and not just listen to a heavily biased source - same applies to hays stuff too

i now await something rather more analytical to give a TRUE picture ...... no doubt more light wil be shed in the very near future

Whip-round?



Anjem Choudary claims he would renounce British citizenship and live under Isis rule





But only if British government grants London-born lawyer safe passage - and the return of his passport




Rose Troup Buchanan Author Biography

Friday 07 November 2014


Radical cleric Anjem Choudray has claimed he would renounce his British citizenship and live under the rule of Isis, if the government would grant him safe passage.

In an interview with the Times the radical preacher claims that if he had his passport he would have already travelled to areas in Syria or Iraq presently controlled by the militant Islamic organisation Isis, also known as the Islamic State.

In response Keith Vaz, chairman of the Common home affairs select committee, said: “If he wants to go, he should be allowed to go. I think that would be a much better scenario than having him stay.



http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/anjem-choudary-claims-he-would-renounce-british-citizenship-and-live-under-isis-rule-9846993.html

From Twitter and the horses mouth itself Nigel Farage..............

Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage · 8 hours ago
Borrowing what we are rightfully owed in the future to pay an unfair bill being levied now is not a victory. It's a sham


Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage 9 hours ago

Osborne trying to spin his way out of disaster. UK still paying full £1.7bn, his credibility is about to nose dive.

Osborne has NOT halved the EU’s £1.7bn bill 7/11/2014


This is how George Osborne probably looked after the fire in his pants caused by his incessant lying about the EU’s £1.7bn bill burned away the rest of his suit. Note that his briefcase is still empty of policies and all he has to offer us is the carrot of false promises [Image: Kaya Mar www.kayamarart.com].

Another Tory lie busted – and in a matter of hours.
George Osborne turned up on TV today, buoyed up by a cloud of his own smugness, announcing that thanks to his amazing Chancellorial skills, the UK will have to pay only half of the £1.7bn budget surcharge demanded by the European Union.

What he didn’t say – at least, not in as many words – was that this was because the EU would be applying a previously-agreed rebate to the charge. It isn’t that the UK will be paying less; simply that the EU won’t be giving back the money that we were due.

It’s as Jacek Dominik, EU Commissioner for Financial Programming and Budget, said on October 27: “Let me point out in this respect that the UK will benefit from the UK rebate for the additional payments in 2014. This will be budgeted in May 2015 when the UK rebate is recalculated.”

Bloomberg News carried a more accurate account than Osborne offered the BBC, stating that “EU finance ministers agreed in principle today to stretch out Britain’s payment of a 2.1 billion-euro ($2.6 billion) bill until September 2015, while leaving the U.K.’s overall contributions to the EU untouched.”

This story made it clear that “Britain failed to win a cut in an extra budget payment demanded by the European Union, complicating Prime Minister David Cameron’s efforts to fend off an anti-EU movement at home.

“The U.K. will pay the whole amount without any penalties attached or interest rates,” Irish Finance Minister Michael Noonan told reporters after the Brussels meeting. “The installments will be paid over a period of time.”

Now let’s go to Shadow Chancellor Ed Balls. Does he think Osborne did a good job? “David Cameron and George Osborne are trying to take the British people for fools.”

Apparently not. “Ministers have failed to get a better deal for the British taxpayer. Not a single penny has been saved for the taxpayer compared to two weeks ago when David Cameron was blustering in Brussels.

“By counting the rebate Britain was due anyway they are desperately trying to claim that the backdated bill for £1.7 billion has somehow been halved. But nobody will fall for this smoke and mirrors. The rebate was never in doubt and in fact was confirmed by the EU Budget Commissioner last month.

“The fact is the Treasury knew about this issue for weeks and weeks, but the Chancellor was asleep on the job. And David Cameron and George Osborne have totally failed to make the alliances we need in Europe to get a better deal for the British taxpayer.”

So the UK is still paying full whack – albeit amortised over a period of time – and George Osborne is a miserable liar.

Vox Political is delighted to have that cleared up.

EU 1 Cameron/Osborne 0 – alittleecon 7/11/2014



George Osborne went to Brussels today to try to negotiate a ‘better deal for Britain’ with regards to the £1.7bn the EU has said the UK owes due to statistical revisions over the last 20 years. Osborne came out of his meeting triumphant, saying he had negotiated a reduction of 50% which would be interest free, with payments staggered over 2 years.

It took about half an hour for Osborne’s claims to unravel after a number of his counterparts in other EU countries revealed that the £1.7bn bill was in fact unchanged, but that the UK’s ‘rebate’ had also been revised, and would total £850m, and that this was always the case. Originally then, the UK would have paid £1.7bn, and then receive a rebate of £850m. Now, after George Osborne’s shrewd negotiating, we will pay £850m and forego the rebate. Still sound like a good deal?

I had wondered whether this latest EU controversy had been engineered by Cameron and Osborne to make the look like they could stand up to Europe and win concessions to appease the right of the party and try to win back some of the UKIP vote. If so it has rather spectacularly backfired.

Osborne makes clear in his announcement today that he thinks we are all idiots and won’t be able to see through an obvious ruse. It doesn’t bode very well for Cameron’s hopes to renegotiate Britain’s role in the EU in advance of a possible referendum in 2017. It seems pretty clear the other nations of the EU have no intention of giving Cameron what he wants, and now view him as a bit of a joke (if they didn’t already). Far from bringing back his detractors into the fold, this latest stunt is more likely to drive people further away.

Eurosceptic Tory MEP Daniel Hannan suggested the deal achieved by the chancellor may not represent any reduction in the total amount.

He also wrote on Twitter: "The EU sticks us with a bill. Ministers double it, apply the rebate, return to the original figure and claim victory. We're meant to cheer?

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Osborne economic with the truth
and that looks to be about as polite as one can be
yes, the payment has been spread and without interest charged and apparently some rules have also been changed, but scarcely the fighting victory that was claimed

even the initial premise that £1.7bn would have to be paid is pretty suspect - ie it was always pretty though not absolutely certain that this £850m rebate could be used as offset

how can ANY politician - and there are plenty of other cases in the past - be so crassly stupid as to believe his story will not be quickly and correctly shredded?

A tory likeness.

Which minister is the closest?

Ps. Could be Haze and CC.