mitzy
- 10 Oct 2008 06:29
hangon
- 05 Aug 2009 19:53
- 497 of 5370
Hate to disagree, but the reality is that adding one great business to one failed business gives two failed businesses. LLOY may soon consider itself the No-1 in Retail banking, but it has too many Branches - and can't close that many, since they don't have enough teller-capacity to accommodate two-branch customer-levels, er IMHO.
The answer is on-line Banking and this means they are competing with themselves - cue a new Bank with good interest-rates and pushing the cashless society ( so no cash-machines). That is the future of Banking and already it is here ( although rather quiet, I'll agree).
If LLOY-gp was operating in isolation about 20-years ago then this takeover IS a great deal, but I think this World Order will change everything and folk will adapt to the next-generation of Banking . . . so LLOY-gp has no customer loyalty to play with (so to speak), since interest-rate is everything
---(The same goes for Mortgages, naturally)
Now the bad news - the liability of HBOS will haunt LLOY-gp for many years and this can't be shunted into "Off-B-S" accounts for ever . . . . . (can I say that?).
Old-LLOY- Directors have created a child of satan - and a nightmare for original shareholders. I am one and sold at 60p believing this Deal was the worst any Director has made in 50-years. I didn't participate in the 38p jamboree of dilutiuon.
LLOY was a respected friend, not any more, IMHO.
The rise today - oh great, "markets say OK" - well the 10% rise was less than Carpetright's +15% and I'm not sure they are about to sell shed-loads of carpets....
Good luck.
HARRYCAT
- 05 Aug 2009 20:13
- 498 of 5370
"Retail banking is the most profitable banking activity"
Sorry, but I also disagree. Investment banking has, I believe, always outstripped retail in profitability, even though the retail side might be more stable & established.
marni
- 05 Aug 2009 20:59
- 499 of 5370
i agree with your comments, hangon.
i think halifax is deluded by fact sp is going up for brief period and he thinks the coujntry is fine......in fact, uk is in a horrendous position economically whether its long term unemployment, companies not being able to invest for future (partly due to taxation), huge huge debts etc etc.
it will take a decade to sort the mess out at least and thats with good people at the top (unlike at present).
Nar1
- 05 Aug 2009 21:15
- 500 of 5370
The chart seems to say other wise - we have a positive MA - IMO
The trend is up -
marni
- 05 Aug 2009 22:03
- 501 of 5370
say that to people that bought at 9 quid a decade ago!!
Balerboy
- 05 Aug 2009 23:29
- 502 of 5370
Sounds like sour grapes to me hangon, sold early, missed bonus at 38p....... so those who invested at 9 were reckless anyway or greedy, those of us in at 5 won't have so long to wait, nearly 150% up on the share issue. If barclays investments made 8 Billion profit, and lloyds follow suit, they've done ok with a 4 billion loss, could have been a lot worst. On ward and upward and wait for the next trading statement.
marni
- 06 Aug 2009 00:22
- 503 of 5370
5........lol.....u will have a longgggg wait
marni
- 06 Aug 2009 00:24
- 504 of 5370
the people that invested then at 9 quid didnt realise stalin brown would bring uk to its knees with bigest financial disaster ever in this country with hugeeeeeeee debt
Nar1
- 06 Aug 2009 09:59
- 505 of 5370
Just got to break this 100 resistance !!
Balerboy
- 06 Aug 2009 10:10
- 506 of 5370
Not long marni.... on it's way :)))
ellio
- 06 Aug 2009 10:11
- 507 of 5370
Usual surge of people realising they may be missing out and jumping on board, this could easily jump too high too soon now and get sold back-down, watch for the day traders buying and selling volume. Will have a life of its own now, be traded on the swings, long-term what do we think though seriously?
jimmy b
- 06 Aug 2009 10:19
- 508 of 5370
I tnink it will get chased up over the next 6 months.
Nar1
- 06 Aug 2009 10:20
- 509 of 5370
I think we heading over a 1 and trade within a new range
halifax
- 06 Aug 2009 12:07
- 510 of 5370
feel sorry for chen and his shorters!
HARRYCAT
- 06 Aug 2009 12:36
- 511 of 5370
I think those guys hedge their bets. Would be too risky to leave themselves open to huge swings.
halifax
- 06 Aug 2009 12:42
- 512 of 5370
no matter they got it wrong! LLOY will be a multi bagger within the next 3 years.those who had the guts to take up the new shares at 38p are laughing all the way to the bank!
Balerboy
- 06 Aug 2009 12:56
- 513 of 5370
Halifax thats a fact!! hankies out for Hangon...:((( not having a go, lol
marni
- 06 Aug 2009 13:17
- 514 of 5370
10 new shares at 38p for u then halifax, lol........dont put it in halifax in case its nationalised
halifax
- 06 Aug 2009 13:20
- 515 of 5370
sour grapes marni missed the boat again.
cielo
- 06 Aug 2009 13:47
- 516 of 5370
>>> laughing all the way to the bank!
I am BIG way, and yes I took the 38p offer