goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
Haystack
- 09 Nov 2014 00:49
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Alan Johnson is the likely candidate. I wouldn't think he would be popular across the country. He is a bit lack lustre and not much of a public speaker. It is said that he lacks the ambition to be PM.
MaxK
- 09 Nov 2014 00:52
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The queens corgi would be more popular than Ed, but whats Cameroons claim to fame?
cynic
- 09 Nov 2014 08:02
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max - What if they get someone competent?
answer - as long patently obvious DM would have been a shoo-in ....... tories are deeply grateful to unite and other hard-left unions for getting em elected as their puppet
dreamcatcher
- 09 Nov 2014 08:39
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Fred has gone very quiet . :-))
cynic
- 09 Nov 2014 08:44
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i think fred has reached the same conclusion as most of us had ...... both main party leaders and their close henchmen are a disaster
dreamcatcher
- 09 Nov 2014 08:53
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Agree, Perhaps we should become Fred's then and not vote . lol
Fred1new
- 09 Nov 2014 09:05
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The Ed Miliband media and tory dirty tricks are running fright and trying to divert attention from their own split and disastrous lying by Cameron and Osborne over Europe.
Rochester will be exposed them for what they are. A split fragmented nasty party detested by many of their old former party supporters and voters.
I like Johnson and think him very capable and sensible, but as I says himself, it is a step to far for him and he doesn't have the necessary fluency in economics necessary as a background for the job of PM.
He was very capable and shrewd, but unfortunately in the rat race of politics accepts his limitations.
Unlike Osborne and Cameron who overvalue their abilities, Johnson has his feet on the ground and is fully aware of the mess and fragmented country the present mob of tory incompetents are leaving.
Ed, I guess will go back to a more collegial form of government, without the strutting and posturing detached arrogance of the Etonian stunted group of school boys which camp followers like Haze and fellows lick up to.
Fred1new
- 09 Nov 2014 09:07
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Edit.
I think the patch of blue could represent his own party and voters who are fleeing to other parties.
Fred1new
- 09 Nov 2014 09:10
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Is it true when Cameron wants to go from No 10 to see Osborne at No 11, he goes down through the sewers (natural haunt) to see him.
Fred1new
- 09 Nov 2014 09:22
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Strange how the real problem and success of the Cameron isn't be shown.
I thought the etonian academic elite were going to solve all the UK's problems.
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Mind when Cameron gets the UK kicked out of the EU all our problems will be solved.
I wonder if Farage will start building a wall around the south coast?
MaxK
- 09 Nov 2014 09:30
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The runners and riders to take over from millibandus
I bet dave cant believe his luck
Fred1new
- 09 Nov 2014 09:32
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In case you missed it:
The success of Cameron and negotiation ability,
Fred1new
- 09 Nov 2014 09:40
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This is the face of Xmas past:
Yesterday's man!
A pity that Cameron and Osborne aren't poppies.
They belong to the past.
MaxK
- 09 Nov 2014 09:44
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Come on Fred, which turkey do you fancy to take over from Ed?
Haystack
- 09 Nov 2014 10:33
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Conservatives and Labour tied
Latest YouGov / Sunday Times results 7th Nov -
Con 33%, Lab 33%, LD 7%, UKIP 16%;
Haystack
- 09 Nov 2014 10:35
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All Ed needs now, is to turn up at the Cenotaph today in a donkey jacket like Michael Foot.
Fred1new
- 09 Nov 2014 10:38
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Miliband is nobody's "turkey, but I see him cooking Cameron's goose in May 2014.
Still a long way away.
Enough time for more gaffs, blustering and u-bends from the "dear leader" and exposure of they false policies and promises.
The chickens are coming home and they know it.
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We are still in the middle game and I would back Miliband's and the shadow cabinet's present strategy.
The media and papers are more interest in their own financial bottom lines, pushing what the are manufacturing, or then pushing it as far they can.
What they are doing at the moment suits them, but when the wind changes and ill-tempered Cameron exposes himself as a true leader of a nasty party, and unelectable some of the print may change. (Not the gutters of the Mail and Telegraph.)
At least, Miliband is not hand in hand with the same elements of the gutter press with whom Cameron and Farage seem to enjoy swimming with.
I think Miliband will be the next PM. of a coaltion slightly left of centre coalition government.
But a problem labour has, is if it broadcasts new policies the con party will adopt them and claim them for their own, as they haven't any got any other than austerity and screw down the poorest in society.
Apologies forgot they are grabbing and trying to run any which comes out of Farage's orifices.
The present con party leadership and followers seem to many to have the morality of alley cats.
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Wait until the cracks in the Welfare System and NHS are expose this winter, especially if there is a cold winter or flu or similar epidemics.
That will be a front page spread.
Haystack
- 09 Nov 2014 10:47
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http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/nov/08/embattled-ed-miliband-labour-plotters-circle-coup
Ed Miliband: Plotters circle in the shadows as embattled leader strikes back
The description given by one of Ed Miliband’s aides of last week’s events – in which a series of newspapers took turns to report on Bonfire night plots and conspiracies against the Labour leader – was as unappealing as it was graphic. “It was just a load of journalists shuffling around eating up each other’s vomit.”
The Times suggested that the shadow health secretary, Andy Burnham, was conspiring with the shadow home secretary, Yvette Cooper, over the future. The Daily Mail wrote of a Bonfire night plot to oust Miliband being hatched at a meeting of Labour MPs in the north-west, but suggested that Burnham and Cooper were deadly rivals. “It can’t be both, surely? They can’t be in cahoots, slicing up the future, while plotting to beat each other. It’s nonsense,” said a source close to Burnham.
MaxK
- 09 Nov 2014 10:56
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Ed Miliband to come out fighting for Britain's EU membership as leadership crisis escalates
by Guy Bentley
new November 9, 2014, 9:43am

Ed Miliband
(Source: Getty)
Ed Miliband will launch a vigorous defence of Britain's EU membership warning Conservative plans for a referendum could put the UK's economy at risk.
In a speech to the Confederation of British Industry (CBI) to be delivered on Monday Miliband will say:
I make you this promise: if I am prime minister I will never risk your businesses, British jobs, or British prosperity by playing political games with our membership of the European Union.
More:
http://www.cityam.com/1415526027/ed-miliband-come-out-fighting-britains-eu-membership-leadership-crisis-escalates
Haystack
- 09 Nov 2014 10:59
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Ed is desperate to find something to distract from his troubles