Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?

If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?

Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?

What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?

required for domestic consumption regardless of true view

Of course the 1967 boders solution also includes not only stopping settlements, but also the removal of ALL settlements in the West Bank and East Jerusalem.

didn't know you were on the hamas negotiating team .... for myself, i'll just watch with interest and hope that, like with northern ireland, a solution that is unhappy for both sides (the best kind) will be brokered in the coming 2/3 years

I am only quoting what Hamas said yesterday. I also suspect that the 1967 proposal is a starting point for Hamas. Once they get those borders they may want 1948 borders which is quite a bit better but not quite the end objective.

what you want and what you get can often be poles apart .... as in selling a house

As received,,,,,,,,,,,,,

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The legal tsunami is on its way
The significance of a Palestinian state joining the UN is that, for the first time, it will be the Palestinians who will decide what the international legal framework is that is binding in their territory.

By Michael Sfard

Israels cautious foreign policy on legal matters over the past 44 years is likely to collapse in September. The mechanisms of legal defense that it built since the occupation of the West Bank and Gaza Strip, to combat the danger of international jurisdiction about its conduct toward millions of people who are under its control, are likely to turn into dust at the stroke of the diplomatic moves.

If indeed the international community recognizes a Palestinian state, the question whether officers in the Israel Defense Forces who are involved in assassinations, shooting at unarmed demonstrators and using phosphorus bombs will be interrogated and brought to trial at the International Criminal Court in The Hague and the question of whether international human rights treaties ‏(and other treaties‏) will obligate Israel during action in the territories, will no longer be decided in the government offices in Jerusalem but rather in the corridors of the Muqataa in Ramallah.

Together with the diplomatic tsunami that Defense Minister Ehud Barak has forecast, Israel can expect a legal tsunami, which for the first time will claim a price for violating human rights in the occupied territories.

The Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and the prolonged occupation of the Palestinian territories that Israel conquered in 1967, are not an internal Israeli issue. This is an international conflict in which the international community has a legitimate interest.

However, during the years of the occupation the state of Israel has repelled the professional legal mechanisms of the United Nations, that deal with protecting human rights, from discussing its actions there. Thus, for example, Israel refrained from granting authority to the UN Committee on Human Rights to discuss complaints from Palestinians against the IDF. ‏

(The committee is a professional body that consists of world renowned experts in human rights law, as opposed to the Council on Human Rights, which is a political body composed of representatives of countries.‏)

In a similar vein, in the territories Israel refused to apply the various human rights treaties that deal, inter alia, with discrimination against women; rights of the child; racial and other discrimination; and torture. Some of Israels most talented advocates were sent to Geneva to claim that these treaties were not binding on Israel beyond the Green Line.

Israel considers itself the representative of the victims and survivors of the Holocaust, and as such was one of the initiators of the establishment of an international criminal court for war crimes. The height of jurisdictional isolation came when Israel decided not to ratify the courts statute so as not to grant it authority to investigate and discuss crimes that, allegedly, were/are being carried out by Israeli officers and soldiers.

Over the course of 44 years, Israel has succeeded in putting the job of judging its actions in the occupied territories in the hands of the High Court of Justice, which approved almost every policy and practice of the army in the territories, deepening the occupation and making possible massive violations of human rights under its patronage.

Israel succeeded in leaving the investigations of its crimes to military advocates/attorneys who made sure that the policy of investigation would be such that enforcing the rigor of the law on soldiers and officers who had violated it would be a sort of miracle.

All of this is about to come to an end. Judging Israels actions in the sphere of human rights is apparently about to be placed in the hands of the nations of the world. To become internationalized.

If indeed Palestine is accepted as a full member of the UN in September, the button controlling jurisdiction over events that will take place in the West Bank and Gaza Strip will, to a large extent, be transferred from Jerusalem to Ramallah, from Benjamin Netanyahu to Mahmoud Abbas − because the significance of accepting Palestine as a member of the UN is that the new member will be sovereign to sign international treaties, to join international agreements and to receive the jurisdictional authority of international tribunals over what happens in its territory.

The young state of Palestine will act wisely if it decides, immediately on joining the UN, to sign all the major human rights treaties and all the clauses or protocols that grant its professional bodies the authority to discuss claims by civilians of violation of their rights.

If the Palestinian government also decides to sign and ratify the international criminal courts Rome Statute, the territories of the West Bank and Gaza will fall under the international tribunals authority to investigate and prosecute.

The significance of a Palestinian state joining the UN is that, for the first time, it will be the Palestinians who will decide what the international legal framework is that is binding in their territory. After more than 40 years in the wilderness of the occupation, the Palestinians will have the possibility of influencing their fate through legal means.

Attorney Michael Sfard is the legal adviser for the Yesh Din human rights organization."

I see hay parrot's Hamas boss Haniyah has condemned the "murder" of the "Muslim Holy Warrior Sheikh Bin Laden."
How the hell anyone can expect Israel to "negotiate" with them is beyond the ken of normal people, especially when Hamas demand the destruction of Israel and attack civilian "targets" like yellow school buses with their rockets.

Should I list the number of children that Israel has killed in Gaza this year?

The international Solidarity Society for human rights said in its monthly report that Israel killed 22 Palestinians, all of them from the Gaza Strip, during intensive artillery and aerial attacks in April.

Israel directly killed more than 1,300 Palestinian children since 2000, a UN official said in a new report.

They shot those children dead those children during direct military operations, said Richard Falk, the UN's Special Rapporteur on the occupied Palestinian territories.

He said seventeen Palestinian children were killed in 2010 alone while trying to gather gravel to help rebuild their families' homes destroyed during the Israeli aggression on the Gaza Strip. Israel has prohibited the entry of building materials during its blockade of the tiny enclave.

Statistics, distortions and outright lies.
Just like, "US murderers invade foreign land and gun down innocent elderly gentleman and deliberately cripple wife by shooting her in legs".

Try to imagine this.

Jemima Khan denies Jeremy Clarkson super-injunction
Jemima Khan has denied taking out a super-injunction to prevent the publication of intimate pictures of herself and Jeremy Clarkson, the Top Gear presenter, after she was named on a social networking website alongside a host of other celebrities.

I wonder what his chat up line is ? That woman in the background is shouting " you rich bitch , stay away from my husband "

Gaza Strip holds first marathonhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-13298231

The Israeli occupation authority (IOA) started building a section of the separation wall around the village of Qalandia to the north of occupied Jerusalem, local villagers said on Monday.

They said that IOA bulldozers escorted by security forces started leveling land south of the village.

The wall would divide the village into two isolated sectors and would place tens of dunums of Palestinian farmers land behind it blocking them from reaching their land.

The wall would surround the village with a cement structure turning it into a ghetto with only two passages out one leading to Ramallah city and the other to Bir Nabala village.

The 1100 inhabitants of the village fear that the wall would isolate it from the outside world and would negatively affect it on the economic, educational, and administrative levels.

Smoker


TOP Gear star Jeremy Clarkson has been cheating on his wife with a pretty blonde during an international tour with the show.

Father-of-three Clarkson, 50, has been betraying his loyal wife of 18 years Frances in a brazen, ongoing affair with a work colleague.

He has been conducting the -relationship while performing abroad on the BBC Top Gear Live tour one of the many money-spinning deals overseen by Frances, who is also his manager.

Clarksons tanned 42-year-old lover joined him on the tour in Australia, South Africa and Norway and spent several nights with him in his hotel room, we can reveal.

why wasn't he in gaza?

BM,

I am glad you have found something to sink your teeth into.


What is your point?

Or are you on the wrong thread again,

I was asked to post.

Better to be on the wrong thread than to be like fred and on the wrong track all the time

lol