Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ed-miliband/11220865/Labour-and-Ed-Miliband-are-going-down-together.html

Labour and Ed Miliband are going down together

A leadership challenge from Alan Johnson failed to materialise, so Ed Miliband and Labour will limp on to the general election, deceiving themselves that they can win

Wrong Hilary you are missing the point where he said directly to Ed Milliband that a vote on the EAW would go ahead BEFORE the ROCHESTER by election.

Eyvete Cooper earlier in the debate read out the precise words Camoron used.

Here we are hilary in black and white, Ill wait for an apology thankyou.

The Prime Minister: I am not delaying having a vote on it. There will be a vote on it. We need, in order to have a vote on it, the small matter of a negotiation to take place within Europe, which up to now the Spanish have been blocking. I think the Spanish will shortly remove their block, and at that moment we will be able to have a vote.

Edward Miliband: We all know the reason why the Prime Minister is not having a vote: it is the by-election in Rochester and Strood. He is paralysed by fear of another Back-Bench rebellion on Europe. So I want to make an offer to him. We have a Labour Opposition day next week. We will give him the time for a vote on the European arrest warrant, and we will help him to get it through.

The Prime Minister: There is only one problem with the right hon. Gentleman’s second question: we are going to have a vote, we going to have it before the Rochester by-election—his questions have just collapsed.

http://labourlist.org/2014/11/tories-in-major-split-over-europe-as-may-denies-mps-vote-on-eaw-that-she-and-the-pm-promised/

hilary - 10 Nov 2014 19:52 - 49924 of 49930

So tell me please, have the Spanish removed their block yet? Has Cameron reneged on his word?

Yet again, a whole load of desperate Socialist propaganda over a non-event.

Has Cameron reneged on his word?

A BIG YES.

It looks like the Tory back benches and labour are trying to recall parliament tomorrow for the vote now.

This as certainly damaged Camoron and May in a big way.

Tories themselves are seething.

They were looking forward to jetting off on holiday, it all depends on the vote now.

I think the CBI received his contribution better than Cameron's.

Didn't you notice the head shaking sideways when the Moron was speaking.


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Tonight's debate certainly holds the tory party together.

The tories have made a farce out of the HP.

They are a farce!

is this EAW really that important?
from the very little i've bothered to read, we'ld potentially win a little bit on the one hand but lose an equal amount on the other

And Hilary as egg on her face ehhh Fred.

Uggh!

What a picture!

Cynic it is with the Tory back benches.

They are after camoron now and thats for sure.

Just watch it on the parliament channel

Manuel,


Yes!!!!!!

Read the label.

Yourself!

What a split party.

Almost as schizoid as "you know who".

The one who toes the party line!

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Manuel,

Not you.

Back to your kennel!

8-)

49930

Cyners see post 49930

this is just a part of it.......

Now it appears Cameron’s ruse has just collapsed. And here’s Theresa May – just yesterday – responding to Yvette Cooper:

“Thank you for your letter of 7 November. Let me be absolutely clear: Monday’s debate and vote in the House of Commons will be a debate and vote on the whole package of 35 measures – including the Arrest Warrant – which the Government wants the UK to remain part of in the national interest.”

Tory MPs – who were lined up for a big rebellion against the EAW (which would have embarrassed Cameron just days before the Rochester and Strood by-election) are understandably furious – as they feel the Commons has been lied to.

Hilary and Hays have gone quiet.

I wonder why.

Nigel Farage ‏@Nigel_Farage 1h

The failure to offer the Commons a vote, & thusly the British public a say on the European Arrest Warrant, is a farce http://news.sky.com/story/1370687/anger-as-european-arrest-warrant-vote-dropped …

i'm not interested in the parliamentary punch and judy show ..... i just wanted to know why it was deemed so important one way or another .... it seems to me that both sides shout equally loudly, so the chances are that it makes little difference in actuality

At the end of the day.

What is all this about?

It's about politicians who cannot carry their supporters, not even their own mp's (all sides)


€urope has done blighty a great service, it has actually broken up the three way split that was the norm before.

All three main leaders are toast at the next election.


Who knows what will follow? But it cant be any worse than what we have now!

Max,

You have a remarkable imagination.

Cool down dear.

Cool down!

Life won't live up to your hopes or expectancy!

Evening Fred.

Stop sniping, and be objective.


How do you seeing it panning out?