Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

A CABINET MEETING AT NO 10

Geri Halliwell Is ENGAGED To Christian Horner of Red Bull! Announced in the Times today.

But here is the tory success story for you in pictures.

There must be some winners in the mess.

A few practical observations on the EAW


http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/nov/10/eurosceptics-think-european-arrest-warrant-rotten

Germany can deny benefits to jobless EU migrants, court rules

Landmark ruling by European court of justice could threaten UK campaign for freedom of movement reforms



Philip Oltermann in Berlin


The Guardian, Tuesday 11 November 2014 11.09 GMT


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/nov/11/germany-deny-benefits-welfare-jobless-eu-migrants


The European court of justice (ECJ) has ruled that Germany can refuse welfare benefits to EU migrants if they have never held a job in the country.

In a landmark ruling, the Luxembourg court announced on Tuesday that “economically inactive” migrants from other EU nations can be refused German unemployment benefits under certain conditions.

The case was prompted after Elisabeta Dano, a 25-year-old Romanian woman living in Leipzig, had her application for benefits refused. The local jobcentre argued that there was a lack of evidence to prove that the woman, who has lived in Germany since 2010, had ever actively looked for work.

After an appeal was rejected by a Leipzig social court, the case was transferred to the ECJ.

In its ruling, the ECJ emphasised that while EU migrants had the right of residence in another EU country for up to three months, the country is under no obligation to pay social benefits during that period. If migrants stay for more than three months but less than three years, right of residence is dependent on whether they have sufficient resources to support themselves or their family members.

The eagerly anticipated ruling could be interpreted as a victory, or a blow, for David Cameron. It is a victory in the sense that it supports the British government’s drive to curb benefit abuse by EU migrants. The British, Danish and Irish had voiced strong support for the German position in the dispute.

But it is also a defeat in the sense that the ruling means that these curbs can be achieved within the existing rules. Had the ruling gone the other way, it would have probably triggered a debate about reforming freedom of movement in Germany. Now, British calls for an overhaul of the existing systems are less likely to be heard.

The ruling was welcomed in British pro-European circles. The Liberal Democrat MEP Catherine Bearder said: “Today’s ruling shows that while EU free movement is non-negotiable, it is not an unfettered right. Liberal Democrats are clear that the freedom to live, work and study across the continent should not mean the freedom to claim. Safeguards can and should be put in place to prevent benefit tourism and abuse of the system.”

I think the German ruling is good for Cameron. It shows that the rules are not set in stone and can be altered and interpreted.

The ruling is virtually what the Conservatives have been planning recently.

H.

Please, restart your tablets!

Cameron's only interest is to save his own backside!

Germany can deny benefits to jobless EU migrants, court rules
Landmark ruling by European court of justice could threaten UK campaign for freedom of movement reforms


surely this is one of the major things that uk has been fighting about, so how it could be seen as "threatening UK campaign for freedom of movement reforms" is beyond me ...... at a stroke it removes one of the major gripes about unemployed migrants coming to uk

What was being covered up in during the Thatcher period of the 1980s?

Why?

By Whom?

Where did the records go?

Manuel,

Gripes,

It is one of the reasons being used to inspire griping.

(If there are abuses they should be addressed, I wonder how big the abuses are.)

I think a diversion from addressing the real problems for migration in the first place.

ah well fred, it depends on how philanthropic one wishes to be at a given time

easy to rattle on at length of this one, and on various aspects, we would almost certainly agree .... however, the theory, practice and actuality are likely to many miles apart, for all sorts of reasons

European Arrest Warrant: Last night's Commons farce reveals the disgusting way in which Britain is governed

This administration is in serious trouble for one reason – they fail to see that they did anything wrong






By Douglas Carswell

11:08AM GMT 11 Nov 2014


It was when Government ministers started mouthing insults across the Commons chamber that I knew they were in trouble.


Yesterday’s extraordinary scenes in the House of Commons might not have shed much light on the European Arrest Warrant. But they did reveal some uncomfortable truths about the way we are governed.


Thirteen days ago, the Prime Minister solemnly promised that our elected representatives in the House of Commons that “there will be a vote” over the European Arrest Warrant. He made it clear that this would happen “before the Rochester by election” on 20th November.


Yesterday was the day that this was supposed to happen. It didn’t.


Mr Cameron’s own whips engaged in a straight forward deception – and were brutally caught out.


Since the House of Commons no longer has the power to decide if we sign up to the European Arrest Warrant, whips decided to avoid having such a vote at all. Cunning, eh?

But then Speaker Bercow, doing precisely what a Commons speaker ought to do, made it clear that the Commons had been had. The vote that might follow, said the Speaker, would not be about the European Arrest Warrant. There was uproar. A contemptuous fury was directed at the Government benches by their own side.


More: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/11222835/European-Arrest-Warrant-Last-nights-Commons-farce-reveals-the-disgusting-way-in-which-Britain-is-governed.html

Does anyone other than Haystack seriously think Dave will be prime minister after the next GE?

Yes, I do ! :-)

It's pretty much nailed on.

I suggest that DB4 that you hold both of Hilary's hand and pop down to the chemist and renew your prescriptions.

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Of course he will be. He will also be the PM. It may be a coalition, but he will be PM.

Haze.

The liberals would touch his hands and Farage would spit on it.

The public and the party recognise Cameron for what his is, as was shown by a large part of his party being revolted by him in the HP last night.

(Hilary's description of him as a "slime ball" seems accurate.)

Mind I can see how he is acceptable to you.