any views new about this one when investment company now marine company with profits and payin divi and cash in bank talk of new weel know chairmen coming in anyone know a name ???

Is this the reason for the delay in selling off Gall Thomson and "returning the value to the shareholders"? Looks like price heading for double digits ??


This snippet from the guardian last month

Their Market Forces page says that there is "talk that Greg Hutchings, the former boss of conglomerate Tomkins, could be set to take the helm [at Lupus]."

"Lupus would be the perfect vehicle from which to launch his comeback.
Apart from Gall Thomson....Lupus is effectively a shell company whose paper could be used to snap up other undervalued companies."

gg - if Hutchings gets LUP (unlikely) then I'd be out like a shot :-)

Shares magazine research no better than most journos - check out the RNS's when Directors ousted and the declared aims.

what shares magazine does is introduce new shareholders gets the information
to a wider audience and give the share momentum I not saying its research is
great but for such companies as LUP information is scarce

Gordon, after reading your research it does look a good one. Going to have a deeper delve into the accounts. Thanks for the leg up.

cheers GF.

plenty of buyers today yet no hint of a movement looking at the previous results
the final divi was increased by 100% possible this will be done again to release value as generate cash ??

again many more buyers than sellers yet still not willing to budget upwards ?

I have been in and out of these for years at a profit most times.
Reluctant to sell this time.
Know this stock backwards.
For new holders possible to get 10p plus dividend over 24 months which rougly equates 10.3 to 11.2p therefore fom here that is a return of 17% per annum over 2 years and possibly a quicker return than that.

two camps here those that expect sell of and those that expect to
be turned into bigger group either way downside limited ???

any up to date news of Lupus and any informed opinion as to what the price will be after suspension ceases ? . the open offer is at 14p per share. will shares open above or below that 14p? . crystal ball owners please promptly respond!!!

grateful appreciation ...particularily for a response from gordon geko

Read the prospectus and decided not to take up the offer
If the shares were not suspended then we would have some idea of how the market views this deal.
Full listing -> Aim, then maybe later Aim -> Full listing
Totally confused and probably will miss out on a good profit, but just too much uncertainty and not enough information to take the risk.
I hold quite a lot, so even taking up the 1/3 would be quite a payout for me.

Hope that my nerves are unfounded and that they fly on 4th April

regards and good luck

Peter

pjstanton posting no 14

i think it will suit gary and others to see the shares on aim.......as the value of the shares will not fall into an estate for inheritance tax purposes.

interested that you are not even going to take up your 1 for 3 rights ...which means your shareholding will be diluted. you will not even gain by the usual sale of rights in the market by the company

i intend to take a (mad) gamble on a very substantial basis. if the shares do rise above the 14p then i have an even greater problem in that do i sell?

there will be no hidden asset value in these shares. however the driving forces have substantial holdings ... so it is very much in their interests that the ship sails well.

i have had two profit warnings this week on shares held for many years viz; Northern Foods and Northamber ... lightning cannot surely strike three times.

WATCH THIS SPACE

TRUST YOU ENJOY LIFE IN CANAL LAND ..... in fact you are in the land where LUPUS now seek to make a fortune !!!!!!!!!!!!

mpw777, Oh canalland is OK'ish, U get used to it.

Interesting to look at the graph and realise that they priced the offer well above the current price at the time of negotiations. They watched the hype in the share price on the first "leak" of information and then priced it accordingly. All a bit like Mr B's govenment don't U think, leak it to the press and see if the public go for it!!
If it was around the 12p mark then I would go for it, but 14p is really too expensive given the information that I have now.
Oh btw last time I bought was at 13p and before that it was 7.75p, so for me if 14p holds, then I'm still well in profit.

Anyway great luck with your gamble

Peter

pjstanton, what is it you don't like about the deal?

Looking at the numbers, 14p looks good value to me. They are adding 10m profit by issuing 378m shares and borrowing 45m. That means EPS will rise from 0.9p to, allowing a good slice for interest payments and tax, to above 1.12p (and probably a fair bit higher). A share price of 14p for that EPS looks very cheap.

Am I missing something?

can someone explain to me why Lupus was able to divert nearly 7m of company value into a LESOT for the benefit of Gary and his familly. this 7m was a cost to the company in that trading year which resulted in a huge loss for the year which in turn reduced balance sheet values.
gary did subscribe seperately to 2m or so of shares but, of course, he has the value of those shares as an asset. thus for a spend of, say, 2m gary/familly have 9m of assets
the lesop matter was put to the shareholders and approved ....i do not know if that was before or after gary had the shareholding for his 2m
i see that gary's salary is 150,000 which is not mega ...and he really does not have any other directorships. the company states his role with lupus is a full time one. Just as well because after tax gary will not get far free-time-wise on the net of tax amount. if i recall correctly in his previous life gary enjoyed the goodtimes across the world. Fine if the fireplace is not neglected

pjstanton posting no. 16
you mention the jump up of the share price on announcement of the proposed takeover. is it not the case at the same time lupus intimated quite good trading plus enhanced dividends ???? .. those aspects on their own might well have been sufficient to push up the share price
the results announcement plus the dividend will have been polished to get the new share issue awayat 14p. however as the new share issue is quite substantial to the previous market cap there is simply more money going into the shareholders pot ...in broad terms

what do they say about this in Holland

pjstanton ......any other comment???
trading is expected to commence again on 4th. april
since the shares were first suspended the market has moved up quite a few % so this may tipple the fresh trading price upwards.
here's hoping ..... as i did make my substantial stake

any further thoughts/information on this share ?????

dealings are expected to start on 4th. april 2006

I've taken the plunge and gone for my allocation.....

Encouraging news today that the open share offer has been oversubscribed. Apparently the total applications received represented 134.5% of the new shares offered.