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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Fred1new - 12 Nov 2014 09:27 - 50038 of 81564

Do I see Hairs holding another's truncheon:

Fred1new - 12 Nov 2014 09:30 - 50039 of 81564

Hairy ones", Cambridge the night after.


MaxK - 12 Nov 2014 09:43 - 50040 of 81564

Cameron pleads with Labour and Lib Dem voters to help beat Ukip in Rochester after Farage's party takes 12-point lead

David Cameron urged people in Rochester by-election to vote tactically
Wants Labour, Lib Dem and Green voters to back Tory Kelly Tolhurst
PM insists it is a two-horse race with Ukip candidate Mark Reckless
Poll puts Ukip on 44%, Tories 32%, Labour 17% and Lib Dems 2%

By Jason Groves for the Daily Mail

Published: 23:22, 11 November 2014 | Updated: 08:42, 12 November 2014


David Cameron last night issued a desperate appeal to voters in the Rochester by-election to vote tactically to keep out Ukip – as a poll showed the anti-EU party with a 12-point lead.

In a highly unusual move, the Prime Minister urged Labour, Liberal Democrat and even Green supporters to lend their votes to the Tory candidate Kelly Tolhurst to prevent a ‘Ukip boost, and all the uncertainty and instability that leads to’.

The poll, commissioned by the former Tory treasurer Lord Ashcroft, put Ukip on 44 per cent, the Conservatives on 32, Labour on 17 and the Lib Dems on only 2 per cent.



David Cameron, on a visit to Strood Academy in Rochester, urged Labour, Liberal Democrat and even Green supporters to lend their votes to the Tories








More desperation here: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2830796/Cameron-begs-Labour-voters-Help-beat-Ukip-Rochester-Farage-s-party-takes-12-point-lead.html


Fred1new - 12 Nov 2014 10:07 - 50041 of 81564

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Fred1new - 12 Nov 2014 10:07 - 50042 of 81564

After the Rochester election can we have a breakdown of tory expenses related to it.

No need to lose the files, or suppress them, if they are nice and clean.

Also, for the sake of open, clean government, can we see the links between the hedge funds' and bankers donations to tory funds.

(Perhaps, from those who think they have an administration in their hands fit for another banana republic.)

Also, can we see the accounts for expenses for the No 10 canteen for "down and outs" of the Con party hopeful, future donors..


Or would it better if it left until April 2015.


Just a few thoughts!

hilary - 12 Nov 2014 10:26 - 50043 of 81564

In 2010 at Rochester/Strood:

Conservative 49.2%
Labour 28.5%
Liberal Democrat 16.3%

I think Milibland should be more worried than Cameron if 76% of the vote goes to right-leaning parties. Especially at a time the Labour party is lurching further towards the left.

Haystack - 12 Nov 2014 10:40 - 50044 of 81564

Hil
Very true. Labour are very vulnerable, especially in the north. They see Miliband as increasingly out of touch with ordinary working people. He dismisses their concerns regarding immigration and the EU.

hilary - 12 Nov 2014 10:47 - 50045 of 81564

Indeed, Haystack. The centre ground where the battle will be fought is shifting, and the two main parties need to re-align so they can continue to fight.

Sure, Cameron needs to UKIPise Tory policy to make them more appealing to Joe Public, but, like the muppet he is, Milibland took a left turn and is now heading in the wrong direction.

:o)

Fred1new - 12 Nov 2014 10:53 - 50046 of 81564

Hils,

You would make a good member in different ways for the Bullingdon boys.

Compared with the damage Rochester election is doing to the Tory party and the possible defections, or flee from Cameron after the results are knowm, it will be a flee bite to the Labour.

Compared with the exposure of the Con partys dissimulation, it would be a minor worthwhile gambit to urge UKIP on.

Why don't you and Haze pop over and canvass in Rochester, your very presences would aid UKIP tremendously!

MaxK - 12 Nov 2014 10:55 - 50047 of 81564

David Cameron 'Begging' For Labour Votes To Avoid Ukip Defeat


The Huffington Post UK | By Ned Simons


Posted: 12/11/2014 10:37 GMT





Nigel Farage has gleefully branded David Cameron "desperate", after the prime minister took the unusual step of asking Labour and Lib Dem supporters to vote tactically for the Conservatives in the Rochester by-election to prevent Ukip from winning.

The latest polls indicate Mark Reckless is set to become Ukip's second ever elected MP on 20 November. The result would be a second damaging blow for the prime minister and likely lead to more discord on his backbenches.

On a campaign visit to the Kent constituency yesterday, Cameron made a direct appeal to supporters of other parties to lend their vote to Tory candidate Kelly Tolhurst in a bid to stop Ukip's "great caravan" rolling on.

One Labour MP who has campaigned in the seat told The Huffington Post there was evidence that "Labour voters are going to vote Tory to stop Ukip". By-elections, the MP said, become an "inevitable choice between the two front runners".

Farage said this morning: "Mr Cameron is now begging voters from other parties to vote Tory to keep out Ukip. Desperate stuff for a prime minister to be doing."


More: http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/11/12/ukip-rochester-by-election-david-cameron-tactical-votes_n_6143936.html

goldfinger - 12 Nov 2014 10:58 - 50048 of 81564

Short post im on a posh new mobile phone(and very nice they are)hilary/hays, stop talking daft northerners will always vote for Labour come election day.

No matter what they say before hand.

Fred1new - 12 Nov 2014 11:11 - 50049 of 81564

Rochester will take the temperature of the con party!

I think Dave's time is up!

Haystack - 12 Nov 2014 11:20 - 50050 of 81564

Oh, how goldfinger must be gringding his teeth and wringing his hands now that his imminent interest rare rise prediction has come to nought. If I could be bothered I would go back and find all his dire warning of massive hikes in mortgage payments followed by repossessions. It is clear that he has no ability to analyse economic or political situations. His discomfort due to his terrible interest rate prediction will be nothing compared to seeing Cameron outside number 10 next year as the PM.

http://news.sky.com/story/1371816/bank-signals-no-rate-rise-until-next-autumn

The Bank of England has signalled that the base rate of interest is unlikely to rise until next autumn because economic conditions are not right.

Haystack - 12 Nov 2014 11:25 - 50051 of 81564

Further bad news for goldfinger!!! Another one of his predictions vapourises.

http://news.sky.com/story/1371766/cost-of-living-pay-rises-outpace-inflation

Wages are now rising at a stronger pace than inflation for the first time since 2009, easing the squeeze on household budgets.

Bank of England Governor Mark Carney said he expected real terms wage growth to rise from zero to about 2% by the end of next year.

Fred1new - 12 Nov 2014 12:01 - 50052 of 81564

Haze,


Rate of "recovery slowing"!

Why after 4 years of tory misrule!

90.6% of GDP (2013)
United Kingdom, Government debt


George is just putting it on the TAB.

But it ain't washing.

Fred1new - 12 Nov 2014 12:03 - 50053 of 81564

The New Cons are gonors!

Stan - 12 Nov 2014 12:18 - 50054 of 81564

Talk about smoke and mirrors -);

goldfinger - 12 Nov 2014 15:34 - 50055 of 81564

What Hays doesnt tell you is the the BoE expect inflation to duck under 1% very soon therefore relatively meaning wage rises are rising.........................LOL LOL

Hay Hilary they are just as bad as their leaders..........ohhh dear.

goldfinger - 12 Nov 2014 15:37 - 50056 of 81564

Bank of England: Inflation likely to fall below 1%
Katrina Bishop | @KatrinaBishop
3 Hours Ago
CNBC.com

The Bank of England (BoE) warned that U.K. price growth is likely to fall below 1 percent over the next six months on Wednesday, amid "significant risks" to its inflation projections.

In its latest assessment on the country's economy, the central bank said: "Inflation is expected to remain below the target in the near term, and is more likely than not to fall temporarily below 1 percent at some point over the next six months."
Price growth is then expected to rise gradually, returning to "around 2 percent" in three years' time.

Read MoreUK economy 'flying' but euro zone a threat: CBI chief

It came after official data revealed that the U.K. unemployment rate remained stuck at 6 percent, although wage hikes beat forecasts in the three months to September.

doodlebug4 - 12 Nov 2014 15:39 - 50057 of 81564

New poll puts Tories three points ahead of Labour

IpsosMORI predicts the Conservatives will win election and reveals just 13 per cent of voters think Ed Miliband is ready to be Prime Minister.

Just 13 per cent of voters think Ed Miliband is doing a good job as Labour leader

By Ben Riley-Smith

12:30PM GMT 12 Nov 2014

A new poll has put the Conservatives three points ahead of Labour, handing the party its biggest lead from the pollster since 2010 and revealing plummeting confidence in Ed Miliband's leadership.


IpsosMORI predicted the Tories will get 32 per cent of the vote next May - three points ahead of Labour on 29 per cent.


Meanwhile belief that Ed Miliband is ready to become Prime Minister has almost halved in since June, dropping from 22 per cent to 13 per cent.


The poll will bring renewed pressure on Mr Miliband and threatens to overshadow a major speech on the economy due to be delivered on Thursday.


It comes after weeks of backroom briefing against the leadership by some disgruntled Labour MPs since Mr Miliband's underwhelming conference address in September.

One unnamed Labour MP told the Evening Standard, which published the poll, that Mr Miliband would be gone by the end of the year if polling figures remained so dire.

"If the numbers carry on like this he will have to go by Christmas, irrespective of whether there is someone waiting in the wings to take over. We cannot go into a General Election knowing we are going to lose," the MP said.

However Ed Balls, the shadow Chancellor, brushed off concerns over the poll during an appearance on Sky News, saying Labour was "not complacent" about the challenge facing the party in the next six months.

“These polls have been bouncing around up and down for the last few months. The only poll which is going to matter is the one on general election day," Mr Balls said.

He added: "I think as we get closer to the election we can win the argument that for most people in our country a Labour government will do much better for you than an out-of-touch Tory Government that has failed in this Parliament.”

The Telegraph
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