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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Fred1new - 12 Nov 2014 18:41 - 50105 of 81564

DB4.

Read what I wrote again.

And then engage the few grey cells if you have any left!

The SNP wouldn't go into a pub with the Cons. even if it was the last pub in town.

goldfinger - 12 Nov 2014 18:50 - 50106 of 81564

LOL Fred.

goldfinger - 12 Nov 2014 18:55 - 50107 of 81564

Workfare Is Replacing Paid Jobs And The Tax Payer Is Funding It: Just Ask @BulkyBobsLtd
Posted on November 12, 2014 by johnny void | 29 comments

bulky-bobs-truckA protest is planned in Liverpool outside the premises of waste collection firm Bulky Bobs after it was revealed that the so-called social enterprise are using workfare.

Bulky Bobs have a contract with Liverpool City Council to collect large items of household waste. This is the kind of work which was once carried out by local authorities but is now outsourced to the private and voluntary sectors. Bulky Bobs drive round in vans proudly emblazoned with the council’s logo. But according to the Liverpool branch of the IWW Union, many of the people doing this work are not getting paid:

“[...] there is one paid manager in the store (who used to work for the company that is now LearnDirect which is one of the major ‘providers’) and the rest of the staff are on workfare or ‘volunteers’. Likewise, the connected company FRC (Furniture Resource Centre) has a warehouse on Brunswick Dock which runs on workfare, as do its vans which collect and deliver to Bulky Bobs.”

FRC Ltd, who own Bulky Bobs, say in this report (pdf), that they made 11 posts redundant in 2012/13, including operational staff. In a clear indication of workfare being used to replace paid jobs, in the same document they admit forcing people to work for no wages on the Mandatory Work Activity scheme. Even more appallingly, they say they are receiving tax-payers money to go with their free forced workers.

FRC-workfareOf course they don’t admit this on their barely functioning shit website where they lie that placements are voluntary:

frc-workfare1

The IWW will be holding a protest outside Bulky Bob’s shop on London Road, Liverpool on Saturday 22nd November at 11am and have called on people to join them. Please help by sharing the facebook page and in the meantime everone’s piling in on twitter @BulkyBobsLtd

doodlebug4 - 12 Nov 2014 18:55 - 50108 of 81564

That is an accepted fact Fred, Salmond said that publicly weeks ago so no news there. What point are you trying to make?

Fred1new - 12 Nov 2014 19:10 - 50109 of 81564

Put your glasses on and your glad down and re-read my posts.

MaxK - 12 Nov 2014 19:30 - 50110 of 81564

re: BulkyBobsLtd


Disgrace!

Fred1new - 12 Nov 2014 19:31 - 50111 of 81564

GF,

Do you know one thing, which amazes me is that after the Crash in 2008 that the coalition government (The one which would walk on water.) has allowed the Financial services money lenders to rob blind the General Tax Payer.

Hide their profits abroad and corruptly use their positions.

This tory lot friends of the city are to b, close.

Sorry, forgot they went to the same schools and universities and play at the same golf clubs and use the same overseas banks in the Cayman isles, Switzerland and Austria etc..


What a corrupt state the UK is becoming. Missing records. phone tapping and closed courts.

Chris Carson - 12 Nov 2014 19:35 - 50112 of 81564

Re- Read Fred's posts LOL! Only masochists need apply. Billy Bullshit breaking records again I see. Credibility would be acknowledged if he actually posted entries, exits and stop losses on his otherwise imaginary trades :0)

Haystack - 12 Nov 2014 20:03 - 50113 of 81564

Farage may have no MPs. Don't forget that any MPs gained now have to be elected again at the GE.

MaxK - 12 Nov 2014 20:12 - 50114 of 81564

Haystack, you have raw numbers from the polls.

You have no idea where those vote transfers are going to end up (tactical voting)


What dont you understand about pissed off?

People are pissed off with the whole standard, more of the same political offerings from the major parties.


A pox on all their houses!

doodlebug4 - 12 Nov 2014 20:16 - 50115 of 81564

Fred, you are getting as bad as gf at editing your posts! What was the piece you posted about the SNP not going down to the pub with the Conservatives?!!!

Haystack - 12 Nov 2014 20:22 - 50116 of 81564

There is a good chance that people will vote differently at the GE. In particular there is evidence that the UKIP vote will fall away. The Lib vote will almost certainly hold up better than expected as they don't need a high percentage spread evenly across the country to get their MPs. I have watched elections closely since 1964 and I have seen various groups and parties spring up and come to nothing. The public tend to revert to kind at a GE. Far less people are pissed of with politicians than you think. Most people are not politically active and have no idea what is going on. The fuss about the EAW debate has no relevance to Joe public. He doesn't understand it and doesn't care anyway. Only activists, Westminster workers and the chattering classes take much notice.

MaxK - 12 Nov 2014 20:24 - 50117 of 81564

Not this time, not with the shower that's on offer.

Haystack - 12 Nov 2014 20:38 - 50118 of 81564

I have seen much worse politicians than we have now. The coalition partners are both operating in ways they don't like. The Libs would like to be more Liberal and the Conservatives would like to be more Conservative. The Conservatives would be much better with a clear majority. However, they would do things that Labour voters would like even less than what has been happening over the last four years.

The public elect on personalities and charisma. They always have. The public, by and large are stupid. They have little understanding of policies and never read manifestos.

Stan - 12 Nov 2014 21:13 - 50119 of 81564

"They have little understanding of policies and never read manifestos."

You are talking about "Con" party politicians there obviously.

Haystack - 12 Nov 2014 21:23 - 50120 of 81564

If anything, it would mainly apply to Labour voters.

Haystack - 12 Nov 2014 21:27 - 50121 of 81564

The Guardian published the IQs of voters some time ago

Green - 108.3

Liberal Democrat - 108.2

Conservative - 103.7

Labour – 103

Plaid Cymru - 102.5

Scottish National - 102.2

UK Independence - 101.1

British National - 98.4

Did not vote/None of the above - 99.7"

goldfinger - 12 Nov 2014 21:38 - 50122 of 81564

Camoron asking Labour to help him out at Rochester clearly feels hes going to get the boot from the Con Party leadership.

Hes in a far worse position than Ed Milliband as ever been.

Fred1new - 12 Nov 2014 21:51 - 50123 of 81564

Haze.

After reading many of you posts I am surprise that you have the IQ to write, but constant cramming and a patient tutor must have help you overcome some of your problems. Even somebody with a similar IQ as you, perhaps about 65-70, may be able to find a therapist which will help you with your problems.

Although, as you certainly have features which may be of interest them.

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Somebody C+P the above and put it on a card for him in big letters.

MaxK - 12 Nov 2014 22:25 - 50124 of 81564

Did anyone do a IQ thingy for guardian readers?
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