Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

re: BulkyBobsLtd


Disgrace!

GF,

Do you know one thing, which amazes me is that after the Crash in 2008 that the coalition government (The one which would walk on water.) has allowed the Financial services money lenders to rob blind the General Tax Payer.

Hide their profits abroad and corruptly use their positions.

This tory lot friends of the city are to b, close.

Sorry, forgot they went to the same schools and universities and play at the same golf clubs and use the same overseas banks in the Cayman isles, Switzerland and Austria etc..


What a corrupt state the UK is becoming. Missing records. phone tapping and closed courts.

Re- Read Fred's posts LOL! Only masochists need apply. Billy Bullshit breaking records again I see. Credibility would be acknowledged if he actually posted entries, exits and stop losses on his otherwise imaginary trades :0)

Farage may have no MPs. Don't forget that any MPs gained now have to be elected again at the GE.

Haystack, you have raw numbers from the polls.

You have no idea where those vote transfers are going to end up (tactical voting)


What dont you understand about pissed off?

People are pissed off with the whole standard, more of the same political offerings from the major parties.


A pox on all their houses!

Fred, you are getting as bad as gf at editing your posts! What was the piece you posted about the SNP not going down to the pub with the Conservatives?!!!

There is a good chance that people will vote differently at the GE. In particular there is evidence that the UKIP vote will fall away. The Lib vote will almost certainly hold up better than expected as they don't need a high percentage spread evenly across the country to get their MPs. I have watched elections closely since 1964 and I have seen various groups and parties spring up and come to nothing. The public tend to revert to kind at a GE. Far less people are pissed of with politicians than you think. Most people are not politically active and have no idea what is going on. The fuss about the EAW debate has no relevance to Joe public. He doesn't understand it and doesn't care anyway. Only activists, Westminster workers and the chattering classes take much notice.

Not this time, not with the shower that's on offer.

I have seen much worse politicians than we have now. The coalition partners are both operating in ways they don't like. The Libs would like to be more Liberal and the Conservatives would like to be more Conservative. The Conservatives would be much better with a clear majority. However, they would do things that Labour voters would like even less than what has been happening over the last four years.

The public elect on personalities and charisma. They always have. The public, by and large are stupid. They have little understanding of policies and never read manifestos.

"They have little understanding of policies and never read manifestos."

You are talking about "Con" party politicians there obviously.

If anything, it would mainly apply to Labour voters.

The Guardian published the IQs of voters some time ago

Green - 108.3

Liberal Democrat - 108.2

Conservative - 103.7

Labour – 103

Plaid Cymru - 102.5

Scottish National - 102.2

UK Independence - 101.1

British National - 98.4

Did not vote/None of the above - 99.7"

Camoron asking Labour to help him out at Rochester clearly feels hes going to get the boot from the Con Party leadership.

Hes in a far worse position than Ed Milliband as ever been.

Haze.

After reading many of you posts I am surprise that you have the IQ to write, but constant cramming and a patient tutor must have help you overcome some of your problems. Even somebody with a similar IQ as you, perhaps about 65-70, may be able to find a therapist which will help you with your problems.

Although, as you certainly have features which may be of interest them.

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Somebody C+P the above and put it on a card for him in big letters.

Did anyone do a IQ thingy for guardian readers?

LOL This is good for laugh!


By Holly Watt, Whitehall Editor

10:00PM GMT 12 Nov 2014

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Ed Miliband will insist he wants to act as a "wealth creator" and is not planning a "big spending" spree if he becomes Prime Minister.


The embattled Labour leader, who has faced calls to step down, will say he is resilient and ready for the fight.


However, last night he admitted that the leadership crisis had worried the public, saying it was “fair to say” his party “haven’t had the best couple of weeks”.


In his speech, will acknowledge that his party made mistakes on immigration when in Government but will claim that pandering to the UK Independence Party would be a return to a more “unjust past”.


In a major change of emphasis, he will now say he is determined to rein in public spending and reduce the deficit if he wins the election.

The major speech - which is seen in Westminster as crucial in relaunching his flagging electoral chances - is likely to be attacked for being scant on detail.

The Labour leader will attempt to calm business leaders’ concerns by admitting that the financial crash left the country with a deficit that “has to be paid down”. However, having failed to set out any spending plans and blocked other cuts, he is likely to come under pressure to disclose detailed spending pledges after his speech.

The speech comes as a new poll showed the Conservatives pulling ahead for the first time since autumn 2010.

The survey by IpsosMORI showed that Mr Miliband is the most unpopular party leader running to be Prime Minister in 40 years.

The Conservatives have now pulled three points ahead of Labour, while the Labour leader's personal approval rating is lower than Michael Foot’s six months out from his disastrous 1983 election.

In an interview with BBC News, Mr Miliband admitted that “it is fair to say that we haven’t had the best couple of weeks.

“Disunited parties are parties that the public worry about and I understand that, that’s why we are going to go forward as a united party,” he added.

The Conservatives immediately attacked the Labour leader’s most recent relaunch, saying that this would be the tenth time that Mr Miliband had “relaunched” himself in four years.

In his speech, Mr Miliband will say that he will battle “for everyday people, and not just a privileged few”, as he seeks to turn around his party after a terrible week.

Mr Miliband will pledge his determination to fight the “zero-zero economy”, where “those at the top get away with zero tax”, while others struggle on “zero hours contracts”.

““You need resilience in this job. You need fight. But above all, you need belief in what you are doing,” he will say.

Mr Miliband will also attack the “deeply unequal, deeply unfair, deeply unjust country” created by the Coalition government, saying that people were asking why they were not feeling the benefits of the recovery.

“Big spending won’t solve the problems of an economy that doesn’t work for working people and we won’t have the money to do it,” he will say

He will insist that Labour can be “wealth creators, not just the wealth distributors.”

A raft of senior Labour figures – shadow education secretary Tristram Hunt, shadow business secretary Chuka Umunna, shadow Home Secretary Yvette Cooper– are expected to publicly support Mr Miliband’s battle over the next few days, after confusion over the Labour message.

The shadow Chancellor Ed Balls went on BBC to shrug off concerns about the poll.

"The only poll that matters is the general election," he said. “These polls have been bouncing about day to day, week to week, month to month.”

However, the Labour MP Tom Watson took to Twitter to call his party’s poll ratings “dire”, as the Conservative Party Chairman Grant Shapps said that voters would view Mr Miliband’s attempts to rebrand himself with the same enthusiasm as the Labour frontbench.

“Ed Miliband’s tenth relaunch does not cover up his failure to learn the lessons from Labour’s mistakes,” said Mr Shapps. “He has opposed everything we’ve done to turn our country around.”

Mr Miliband will also use the speech to attack the Ukip and Mr Farage, insisting that he will discuss immigration “on the basis of Labour values, not UKIP values.”

“We will be talking more about immigration as a party and we should,” he will say. “What we will never do is try to out-Ukip, Ukip.”

His comments came as Mr Farage said that his party could form a party with Labour if it would guarantee a referendum on Europe.

Asked by the New Statesman if he would go into coalition with Labour Mr Farage said he would “do a deal with the Devil if he got me what I wanted”.

cnbc just a top fund manager was asled was ed correct in what he said about the economy and is answer was 100% correct on the whole the middle to low paid have been very badly treated while the rich have been well looked after by Osborne

I would like to know who is whom, why and what for!

Tory lead didnt last long, was all the negative stuff about Milliband over last weekend. Whats more they have what they want 35% of the poll.....

Latest YouGov / The Sun results 12th November - Con 32%, Lab 35%, LD 7%, UKIP 15%; APP -25

UKIP STILL polling highly, bring on Rochester, lets see Davy thrashed.