Sharesmagazine
 Home   Log In   Register   Our Services   My Account   Contact   Help 
 Stockwatch   Level 2   Portfolio   Charts   Share Price   Awards   Market Scan   Videos   Broker Notes   Director Deals   Traders' Room 
 Funds   Trades   Terminal   Alerts   Heatmaps   News   Indices   Forward Diary   Forex Prices   Shares Magazine   Investors' Room 
 CFDs   Shares   SIPPs   ISAs   Forex   ETFs   Comparison Tables   Spread Betting 
You are NOT currently logged in
 
Register now or login to post to this thread.

FTSE + FTSE 250 - consider trading (FTSE)     

cynic - 20 Oct 2007 12:12

rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.

for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ

for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance

jimmy b - 12 Apr 2010 01:23 - 5014 of 21973

Problem is cynic you will be right, but when ?? is the million dollar question if the Dow sales past 11100 to 11500 before any turn you get stopped out ,it's a dangerous game .
Good luck anyway..

TheFrenchConnection - 12 Apr 2010 02:45 - 5015 of 21973

Time has surely come to consider shorting Dow . Even the Fed reserve in an attempt to ensure that there is enough liquidity in place to protect the nations fragile banking system has by increasing the M3 credit based money supply to chrisis proportions almost confirmed this fact . We have NEVER seen such unprecedented unheard of M3 expansion ever before without a chrisis of historic proportions !! Reg FTSE 350- Anyone noticed the start of the movement of a lot of big money from capital growth driven cyclicals -whose returns this past 12 months have been truly staggering - to more high divi paying defensive stocks ? A posting i meant for this thread i posted on CHAR thread by mistake and am to lazy to repeat all the stats. But in essence i would rekkie underpinning portfolio with gold !! ,,,,,,,,,,

Camelot - 12 Apr 2010 06:46 - 5016 of 21973

"Time has surely come to consider shorting Dow"

why ? ; why now ?

you could have said that at anytime in the last year.

picking tops is a mugs game

cynic - 12 Apr 2010 07:21 - 5017 of 21973

and bottom fishing isn't?
when all the world says buy, then it's time to sell .... and vice versa

Camelot - 12 Apr 2010 08:40 - 5018 of 21973

"all the world" ?

lol

dont fight the fed

cynic - 12 Apr 2010 08:50 - 5019 of 21973

and you keep accumulating paper profits without banking any, and then you can watch them fritter away and wring your hands, saying if only

Camelot - 12 Apr 2010 11:24 - 5020 of 21973

let us know when you stop 'considering shorting the Dow' and actually do it

cynic - 12 Apr 2010 11:37 - 5021 of 21973

why do you need to follow what i do?
are you incapable of making your own decisions?
for sure i have already reduced my market exposure this morning

Camelot - 12 Apr 2010 14:04 - 5022 of 21973

ah, only reduced ?

so, you are undecided then

:-)

cynic - 12 Apr 2010 14:16 - 5023 of 21973

did you get any grey matter at birth, or is it just a big black hole in your skull?

jimmy b - 12 Apr 2010 14:18 - 5024 of 21973

What about your long term holdings like AFR cynic ?

cynic - 12 Apr 2010 14:23 - 5025 of 21973

AFR is like my cock
i have been holding it for a long time and am now quite attached and certainly have no intention of having it reduced!

jimmy b - 12 Apr 2010 14:59 - 5026 of 21973

As we are talking so personally ,my holdings too big and probably needs reducing .

cynic - 12 Apr 2010 15:14 - 5027 of 21973

i know a rabbi who'll do that for you ...... better him that the shochet

cynic - 13 Apr 2010 10:32 - 5028 of 21973

for camelot, as seemingly he cannot make his own decisions ....... i went (modestly) short dow yesterday, and i think that may prove to be very profitable ...... it looks to me as though the long awaited and o'due correction is about to get under way

HARRYCAT - 13 Apr 2010 11:54 - 5029 of 21973

Probably right. From Bloomberg:
"Alcoa reporting missed analysts forecats & valuations are looking a bit stretched, said Chris Hall, who helps manage about $3.7 billion at Argo Investments in Adelaide, Australia. No ones disputing theres going to be a recovery, but its the question of magnitude thats got people a little bit cautious. Investors are waiting for evidence earnings are sustainable beyond the benefits of stimulus measures.

The decline in U.S. futures indicated the Dow Jones Industrial Average may retreat after yesterday closing above 11,000 for the first time since September 2008."

Chris Carson - 13 Apr 2010 12:49 - 5030 of 21973

Well that settles it then, if that is what Boomberg are predicting that will probably be the best buy signal you are going to get this week! It's when they advise buying I get worried :o))

HARRYCAT - 13 Apr 2010 13:29 - 5031 of 21973

I did do a bit more research & found that CNN tended to agree with them, so based on the premise that two wrongs make a right, everyone should therefore be long FTSE & DOW, CC? ;o)

Chris Carson - 13 Apr 2010 14:01 - 5032 of 21973

Exactly Harry, If you are so inclined you can make money trading both up and down of course, but I for one wouldn't go short or long and get on a plane for a week hoping with fingers crossed I'd called it right on my return. :o)

Camelot - 14 Apr 2010 12:36 - 5033 of 21973

new high on dow yesterday (13th)

and now trading higher still

Register now or login to post to this thread.