Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Oh don't you start.. now get back to your work please -):

thankfully i was out all yesterday - golf with client + bank manager :-) - but my post above is no more than a fair obervation

I have listen to Miliband's speech and thought it good.

The things which stands out is that he thoughtful, analytic and has honesty and integrity which is certainly not apparent in the overgrown etonian twins.

Also, I "believe" the majority of the UK are politically moderate and what he has said and will say appeals to them, although they may like Ed to have a little more charisma.

Crosby's smutty effect on the media and camp followers like Haze, Cynic will obviously concentrate on the messenger, but the labour party and voters will hopefully concentrate on the message as well as the messenger.

I know who I would trust.

Especially as more and more unfolds for this Gove rment and it u-bends more and more!

Stan,

Manuel, doesn't have any more dishes to wash and all the customers have fled without paying the bills.

He is hoping for a loan from his bank manager.

Times are hard on the Embankment.

The public know that Miliband won't be PM. The newspapers, the TV commentators and even the Labour party know. It is only Miliband that is in denial. It will be amusing to watch and see at what point it dawns on him.

fred - what you say about EM's character and speech may well be correct, or at least that is your own (fair) assessment of it
i think it is certainly reasonable to comment that "the majority of the UK are politically moderate"
however, like it or not, it is a fact, sad or not, that the "messenger" needs to have presence and charisma which EM patently does not ..... were it otherwise, then surely labour would be out of sight in the polls ..... if you argue otherwise, then surely it means that the public thinks labour's policies are as insubstantiable or unworkable or whatever as the incumbent's?

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-11-13/forex-investors-may-face-1-billion-loss-as-trade-site-vanishes.html

Manuel,

It depends on whether you want a floozy, or prefer a decent cook.

I think the majority flirt with, or go to bed briefly with the first, but marry the latter.


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Just heard Matthew Hancock speaking.

Looks like the problem is solved for the next leader of the Con party.

He appears to me, to be a cross between Cameron and Farage.

All he needs is a barrow and Del Boy's overcoat.

Mind Cameron and Farage do remind me of Del.

Got the three of them posing together.

Doc,

There's only around $4bn a day passing through the global Forex market, and only a very, very small percentage will have passed through Secure Investments. There's no way in the world that they would have had anything like $1bn of client funds on deposit, and it's inconceivable that they had anywhere near 100k clients.

But, a fool and his money are easily parted, and if muppet retail investors persist in depositing their hard-earned with unregulated offshore brokers and 'fund' managers, then pas de problème.

Tory lead didnt last long, was all the negative stuff about Milliband over last weekend. Whats more they have what they want 35% of the poll.....

Latest YouGov / The Sun results 12th November - Con 32%, Lab 35%, LD 7%, UKIP 15%; APP -25

UKIP STILL polling highly, bring on Rochester, lets see Davy thrashed

it's been certain from the outset that the tories would get whacked at rochester
however, sticky my old friend, do read post 50158 about the undeniable trend

Yep the trend goes one way then the other, just wait until after Rochester.

Im not a betting man and wouldnt bet on any outcome for the GE at the moment, like chucking money down the drain.

Just for interest and to simplify for Sinner and Hazyone!

fred - you might just as sensibly have posted the MORI polls over the last 3 months ...... the trend over say the last 6 months is the important bit!

it wasn't so long ago that 38/39% voting for labour was being touted around

i'm not making a song and dance about it, but rather just pointing out the obvious

Manuel.

What odds are you offering on Ed and Wavy Dave?

crikey! i haven't the faintest idea ..... to be honest, i wouldn't want to put money on either of them (or their successors) as i think they're both awful in their own ways

Is anyone offering odd's that none of the three mooseketeers will survive the next GE?

PS.

I also promise not to post the Polls if they are in favour of the torrid party.

If I have the chance to do so, and actually do, consider it to be a mistake on my part.

8-)

stupid boy pike!

By Dan Hodges

1:54PM GMT 13 Nov 2014

There was a time when the definition of madness was perceived to be doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. No longer. The new definition of madness is turning up to Senate House at the University of London in the expectation that Ed Miliband might say something, anything, to transform his political fortunes.


At the weekend Labour MP Simon Danczuk – one of those rebels who isn’t a rebel – said bluntly “the solution is not more Ed”. This morning that’s precisely what we got. More Ed. Old Ed. The Same Ed.


Ed Miliband thinks there is a deep divide in Britain between the rich and the poor. Ed Miliband thinks the nation’s problems cry out for big solutions, not small solutions. Ed Miliband believes David Cameron stands up for “a privileged few”.


Who knew? Not the voters, clearly. Yesterday Miliband finally crossed the Rubicon. His approval ratings are now officially the worse for any leader of any major British political party since records began. And, according to him and his aides, this is because the British public have been labouring under the misapprehension that the only reason he wants to be Prime Minister is so he can get his picture on the wall of Downing Street.


“Above all, you need belief in what are you doing” he said “Not belief based on longing to have a picture on the wall in Downing Street”. Well that's that one sorted then.

Another problem has been that the British people don’t know what Ed Miliband stands for. “So let me take the opportunity today to spell it out in the simplest terms”, he announced sombrely. “It is what I stood for when I won the leadership of this party. And it is what I stand for today. This country is too unequal.” In an instant, the millions of worried electors who had been labouring under the misconception Ed Miliband believed in gross inequality had their doubts assuaged.

“Just why does Ed Miliband want to be PM?”, people have asked ever since he defeated his brother for the Labour leadership. “It is about all those people who feel there is something just not right about the values of a country when they see Chief Executives get a 21% pay rise last year, as everyone else’s wages have fallen. These are symptoms of deeply unequal, deeply unfair, deeply unjust country. That’s why I want to be Prime Minister,” he said. Across the land you could almost hear the sighs of relief. “That’s why Ed Miliband wants to be Prime Minister. He doesn’t like rich Chief Executives “. And in an instant, four years of suspicion and antipathy rolled away.

In many ways, it was brave speech. People had been telling Ed Miliband he needed to unveil a radical new message today to turn around perceptions his leadership was slowly dying on its feet. He was having none of it.

Ed is the problem. So Ed must also be the solution. Mustn’t he?

The Telegraph