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Israeli Gaza conflict?????? (GAZA)     

Fred1new - 06 Jan 2009 19:21

Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?

If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?

Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?

What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?

Haystack - 16 May 2011 15:40 - 5027 of 6906

Several of the posts above including the one right above yours are from Jewish newspapers in Israel. The one above is from the Jerusalem Post.

Here is a post for you from today:

Armed Jewish settlers tossed a number of Molotov cocktails into the house of a Palestinian citizen in the Old City of Al-Khalil on Sunday night after encircling it.

The owner, Jamal Su'ifan, said that tens of settlers besieged his home and threw the firebombs into it, starting fire and burning part of the house, which was sheltering 20 individuals.

He said that Israeli soldiers were escorting the settlers, noting that two members of the Temporary International Presence in the City of Hebron (TIPH) team in Al-Khalil arrived to his home to check the incident but were also surrounded by those settlers.

Su'ifan home is only a few meters away from the Kiryat Arba settlement, which was established on Palestinian land east of Al-Khalil. Settlers in Arba routinely attack nearby Palestinian homes in a bid to terrorize their inhabitants away and take control of them.

Haystack - 17 May 2011 13:21 - 5028 of 6906

Clearly no hope for Israel with inhabitants like this.

A couple from Israel has named their newborn daughter Like after the social networking feature on Facebook.

The girls new moniker was inspired by a button which allows users to express their endorsement of photos, status updates and links.

Lior Alder and his wife Vardit live in the town of Hod Hasharon just outside Tel Aviv and said they wanted a name for their daughter that was modern and innovative.

In The Land of the B - 17 May 2011 13:57 - 5029 of 6906

You REALLY need to get laid, parrot

In The Land of the B - 17 May 2011 16:36 - 5031 of 6906

LOL !

Greg went out with a Jewish girl once but she wasn't having any, so he's hated Jews ever since :)

Bernard M - 17 May 2011 16:40 - 5032 of 6906

I did and she stank of pastrami

cynic - 17 May 2011 16:44 - 5033 of 6906

must have been in NY then!
it's very difficult to get proper salt beef (brisket) even in london, as all these damn health freaks go on about how unhealthy animal fat is .... silverside, now the general choice, makes crap salt beef

In The Land of the B - 17 May 2011 16:45 - 5034 of 6906

What, the same one as the parrot?

In The Land of the B - 17 May 2011 16:47 - 5035 of 6906

Selfridges' is good. I know there are others, but I've got a little place nearby so it's handy. And yes, parrot, my main home IS in Wimbledon.

Bernard M - 17 May 2011 17:01 - 5036 of 6906

lob bagels are good for masterbation bet you have been there.

In The Land of the B - 17 May 2011 17:06 - 5037 of 6906

I'll take your word for it.....you are clearly the voice of experience.

cynic - 17 May 2011 17:37 - 5038 of 6906

unless selfridges have changed or offer both, then their salt beef is dry and nasty silverside ...... there was a great salt beef bar in market place, but i see that carluccio's has now taken over that site

In The Land of the B - 17 May 2011 17:43 - 5039 of 6906

carluccio's is awful, cod Italian with awful service
Selfridges' salt beef is usually very lean so you don't get the moisture of fat, but it's healthier and you get used to it, especially with some moisture from mustard and pickled cucumber and lemon tea.
This thread is improving

cynic - 17 May 2011 17:58 - 5040 of 6906

ITLOB - you hit the nail on the head about selfridges salt beef ..... sorry m8, but it's crap as any yid who knows his sarnies will tell you! .... wtfc if silverside is healthier? ..... cottage cheese is no doubt healthier than epoisses, but i know which i would rather have!

In The Land of the B - 17 May 2011 21:12 - 5041 of 6906

LOL !
The best salt beef was from a little Greek Cypriot place called the Sunset on Finchley High Road. Alas they retired several years ago; better than the awful Blooms, Reubens, B & K and any others I've been to.
Healthier, yeah but I'm as far from a tree hugging sandal wearing Lib Dem voting obsessive self righteous self opinionated green eco-health freak as you can imagine. I just don't like eating very fatty stuff.
Everything in moderation.
Except fighting nazi, anti-semitic filth :)

In The Land of the B - 17 May 2011 21:57 - 5042 of 6906

1 tablespoon vegetable oil 1 (4 pound) beef brisket ground black pepper to taste 2 onions, thickly sliced 2 cloves garlic, peeled and cut in half salt and pepper to taste

Heat the oil in a large deep skillet or pot over medium-high heat. Season the brisket generously with black pepper. Place in the pan and cook until the surface is a rich brown color, not burnt, but dark. Lift the roast and scatter the onions in the pan. Place the uncooked side of the roast down onto the onions. Repeat the browning process.
Add the garlic to the pan, and fill with enough water to almost cover the roast. Bring to a simmer. Reduce heat to low and cover with a lid or tight-fitting aluminum foil. Simmer for 4 hours, turning the roast over once halfway through. The roast should be fork tender.
Remove the brisket to a serving platter. Bring the broth in the pan to a simmer, scraping the bottom to loosen any browned bits. Cook until reduced to a thin gravy. Taste and season with salt and pepper if needed.

Haystack - 20 May 2011 12:16 - 5043 of 6906

IOF troops raided on Thursday a number of Palestinian homes in the northern West Bank city of Nablus to get acquainted with their residents.

The raids were concentrated in the Daheya neighbourhood to the east of the city and two of the homes raided belonged to the families of Jittan and Shaaban.

One of the owners of the homes raided told PIC correspondent that IOF soldiers raided his house at 2:00 am and that among the soldiers were intelligence officers and that one of those officers told him that they did not intend to arrest anyone, but they only wanted to get acquainted.

The Palestinian home owner further said that the officer introduced himself saying that his name was Ali and that he was in charge of that area. He further informed the head of the household that he wanted to get acquainted with him and his family.

The officers questions were concentrated about members of the family, what jobs they have and their financial situation. He also asked what Palestinians thought of the reconciliation agreement between Palestinian factions. The questioning lasted about an hour.

Such raids, just to get acquainted, have been frequently taking place in the West Bank and are causing great concerns among residents who do not know the real aim behind such raids.

cynic - 20 May 2011 12:23 - 5044 of 6906

don't care one iota ...... shall be much more interested to read what obama said yesterday about 1967 borders and which very predictably, netanyahu rejected ..... and then, let's see if obama has the balls to start forcing the issue through the simple expedient of cutting back aid to israel or similar

In The Land of the B - 20 May 2011 13:45 - 5045 of 6906

If Obama thinks he can force Israel into accepting the 1967 borders he's in cloud cuckoo land. Those borders would be indefensible against insurgents or a hostile Palestine.
And yes I do think Israel must and will settle and the majority of Israelis are in favour of a Palestinian state which will inevitably come, but Obama deciding on the outcome of negotiations in advance is actually very counter-productive to any putative peace.

Haystack - 20 May 2011 13:53 - 5046 of 6906

Obama won't do anything. The Republicans are already taking advantage of Obama's speech to drive a wedge between the Democrats and the US Jewish community by saying Obama is being unkind to Israel. Obamas is already out on a limb and he has probably gone too far politically already.

Netanyahu may well say the he won't accept 1967 borders because settlements in the West Bank are outside the proposed border, but he won't ever say what he will accept. Netanyahu is as much a prisoner of his own politics as Obamas is. His right wing, who hold the balance of power in the Israeli government don't want a peace agreement in any way similar to what is proposed. He should be happy with the 1967 borders as it means a Palestinian state on only 20% of their original land with Israel taking 80%, but somehow that is not good enough.

The right wing says that all the land west of the Jordan belongs to Israel as that is what the Bible says they had. On that basis settlements will increase until all the Palestinians are living in refugee camps in Lebanon, Syria, Jordan etc.

The recent incursions into Israel by Palestinians from Syria, Lebanon were Palestinians living in refugee camps there. They have been living like that for a couple for generations now. No wonder Palestinians want the right of return.
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