Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

It seems both of you know her bottom well.

Good to see Wavy Dave throwing his sponges at Putin.

I wonder if Putin will park some of his toys in the Thames estuary as a parking.

Or perhaps Carmeron and Hammond look for the carriers and Defence forces who haven't been retired to man the boat.

Cameron behaves once again like the school play ground bully, ready to hide behind Nursey.

What a ????

Perhaps, they can send Nigel and his group, who should be pensioned off, to form the New Home Guards with fixed bayonets and pints of beer!

Big arses like that have a strong appeal to some people. I can't see why.

Fred's a little arse

Hays,

There must be somebody who even you appeal to.

Doubt that many would understand why?

Trust Aldgit to have an opinion on arses.. I wonder why.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/SNP/11233496/SNP-name-their-price-abandon-Trident-to-put-Miliband-in-Downing-Street.html


SNP name their price: Abandon Trident to put Miliband n Downing Street.

They are as funny as Labour. SNP will have no more power than they did at the last election. The total of SNP + Labour will be the same whether SNP gets Labour's seats or not and that total will probably not be enough. Apart from anything, Labour support Trident.

Do you think a minority Conservative government would work better than a coalition Haystack?

If people thought Salmond was a barrowload of monkies then just wait until Nicola Sturgeon gets stuck in!

ComRes/Sunday Indy – CON 30, LAB 34, LD 8, UKIP 19, GRN 3

Populus’s Friday poll had topline figures of CON 33%, LAB 35%, LDEM 9%, UKIP 13%

d4
It is going to be an interesting couple of days after the GE. The party with the most number of seats irrespective of a majority will have the first chance to form a government. There is a good chance that it may be the Conservatives, especially if the SNP takes many seats from Labour. Of course, the Conservatives may not have a majority. It might just be the most seats. They could form a minority government. It would be difficult to operate that way.

If the Conservatives were the biggest party due to Labour losing seats to SNP then the Conservatives could form a minority government that could survive for a long time as the law says 5 years to the next election. There could be a vote of no confidence or 2/3 of the house could decide on an election. Either way a minority Conservative government could only be followed by a new election.

A number of other things could also happen. The Unionist party would be a natural partner. They might well still not be enough even with the various 'others'. They then might try a coalition with the Libs again. If no coalition could be formed then the next biggest group could try and form a government if the Conservatives didn't want to be in a minority government. That would be Labour. The Libs might go into a coalition although Labour wouldn't do deals last time.

Call Me will be no match for gorgeous, pouting, Nicola !


The Jock Borgias come to town :-)

As you say Haystack it will be interesting. I think the Conservatives have achieved quite a lot in this government although I don't think the coalition with the Libs has worked very well. The prospect of a Labour/Lib government is just too awful to even contemplate!

One of the good things about a minority government from the Conservatives point of view is that Labour, Libs, SNP can only get rid of them with a new GE. None of those parties could afford another selection soon after next year's.

Revealed: how coalition has helped rich by hitting poor

Study shows gains for wealthier half of population, delivering a blow to George Osborne’s claims on fairness



Daniel Boffey, policy editor


The Observer, Saturday 15 November 2014 21.30 GMT



http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/nov/15/coalition-helped-rich-hitting-poor-george-osborne





We will lose Rochester and Strood byelection, admits senior Conservative

Tory cabinet source says Ukip will win and the Conservative party’s best hope is to ‘keep defeat to single digits’

■ How Rochester’s voters have lost faith in Westminster politics
■ Immigration: electorate delivers vote of no confidence in all leaders


Toby Helm and Ashley Cowburn


The Observer, Saturday 15 November 2014 20.30 GMT




http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/nov/15/rochester-strood-ukip-conservatives-admit-defeat

A very typical Guardian article. It is an obvious result of austerity. It is not a policy that had that specific intention, but a natural byproduct.

EXCLUSIVE: Six Tory MPs to defect to Ukip if it wins Rochester and Strood by-election 16/11/2014

UP to half a dozen Tory MPs are ­planning to defect to Ukip if their party loses Thursday’s by-election.

By: Caroline WheelerPublished: Sun, November 16, 2014


Farage is upbeat more Tory MPs will cross the party line before the general election

Insiders claim Basildon and Billericay MP John Baron is the most likely to cross the floor.

Five others could also make the switch in the coming weeks, according to sources. Last night Mr Baron refused to rule out joining Ukip and would refer only to earlier comments he made on BBC’s Newsnight last month.

When he was asked on the programme whether he would defect, he replied: “You should never say never in politics.” However, he added: “My very strong preference is to stay within the Conservative Party.”

Ukip is on course for victory in the Kent constituency of Rochester and Strood on Thursday. One opinion poll gave the party a 12-point lead.

Last night Mark Reckless, the former Tory MP who sparked the by-election by defecting to Ukip, told the Sunday Express that victory could result in a realignment of British politics of the sort not witnessed since the collapse of the Liberal Party in 1922.

He said: “I don’t know what the result will be next Thursday and obviously I will be fighting for every vote but if Ukip can win here then Ukip can win across the country.

“I don’t know whether it is an earthquake or a tsunami but we are seeing the potential realignment of our political system and it is conceivable that, as the political system changed in the 1920s with Labour replacing the Liberals, we may see a similar change over the next decade.”

Mr Reckless said that Ukip is now able to attract the same level of support from Labour as it does from the Tories, echoing the findings of last week’s opinion poll which found that 40 per cent of those who voted Labour in 2010 were now backing Ukip.

He said: “We are getting almost the same degree of support from ex-Labour voters as we are from ex-Conservative voters but at least as striking is the ­support from people who did not vote in the last general election and who have not voted for a generation.

“I am getting support from a number of new voters who have never voted before who are in their 70s.

“I have had two people find me on Twitter, one lady who said she will never vote for anyone unless she knows them and she has got to know me and will support me, and another who said he never thought there was any point in voting until he saw what Ukip were ­saying as the agents of change and to break up the cosy cartel the other ­parties have had for too long.

“There are many Labour voters who would never have considered voting for me because I was a Tory. Now I am Ukip they are willing to vote for me to rep­resent them.

“The Tory label was holding me back. I feel now I have been set free.”
Ukip’s first MP Douglas Carswell, who won last month’s Clacton by-election, said he saw first-hand the support for Ukip among former Labour supporters as he joined Mr Reckless on the campaign trail last week.

He said: “I was in a traditional Labour ward and what really struck me and was reminiscent of my Clacton experience was that people that I just wouldn’t have even considered worth talking to to try and get them to vote for me are now willing to vote because the old party grounds are so contaminated in the eyes of the voters.

“In that traditional Labour ward there were a huge number of ex-Labour voters, who never in a million years would vote Conservative and who have given up on Labour, will now vote for Ukip.

“At times it took a while for me to walk down the street because there were so many people ­coming up to me.

“If things go the way I hope they will in Rochester on Thursday, then I think it is further evidence that Ukip are the first party in generations that have sussed out how to unlock the first-past-the-post system. The implications of that are huge.

“Clacton was seen as a very Ukip-friendly seat. Political gurus have looked at the numbers and have said Rochester is the 270th most Ukip- friendly seat. If we can do what the polls suggest we might do next Thursday, there are 269 other seats upstream of that which could be unlocked too.

“That is the potential, although nothing in life is ever certain.”

Despite Labour being under threat from Ukip, they have turned their big guns on David Cameron, accusing him of resorting to “desperate measures” to defeat Ukip at the by-election.

Rochester and Strood’s Labour Party candidate Naushabah Khan made the claim in response to last week’s appeal by the Prime Minister to supporters of Ed Miliband to vote Tory to keep out Ukip.

In a highly unusual move, Mr Cameron urged Labour, Liberal Democrat and even Green supporters to give their votes to the Tory candidate Kelly ­Tolhurst to prevent a “Ukip boost and all the uncertainty and instability that leads to”.

His demand followed an opinion poll commissioned by the former Tory party treasurer Lord Ashcroft, which put Ukip on 44 per cent, the Conservatives on 32, Labour on 17 and the Lib Dems on only two per cent. Ms Khan told the Sunday Express: “Cameron is increasingly resorting to desperate measures to try and pull in Conservative support.

“For us it is about getting people to go out there and vote with their heart and vote for what they believe in and in this election we think the only party that is talking about the real issues is Labour.

“I think there is an element of frustration with what this Government has done and people want to express that frustration and they are fed up.

“For some of them voting Ukip might be a way for them to do that but actually, when we are out knocking on doors, we are finding our support is still there and there are a lot of people who do want to support us.”

Sunday Express

Where is gorgeous, pouting Nicola going to get the money for all this?



SNP name their price: abandon Trident to put Miliband in Downing Street

Nicola Sturgeon, the new nationalist leader, says she will put Ed Miliband in No 10 if he abandons austerity measures and removes Britain's nuclear arsenal from Scottish waters





By Matthew Holehouse, Political Correspondent

15 Nov 2014



The Scottish Nationalists will demand Ed Miliband scraps Britain’s nuclear base in Scotland and abandon the deficit reduction programme as the price for putting him in Downing Street, the party’s new leader has said.


Nicola Sturgeon, in her first speech after replacing Alex Salmond as the SNP leader, said her party could hold the balance of power after the next election.


She ruled out doing a deal with the Conservatives in the event of a hung Parliament, saying there is no need for Scots to vote Labour to prevent David Cameron remaining Prime Minister.


Despite Scots rejecting independence in a referendum two months ago, Mrs Sturgeon said separation from the UK was merely a matter of time.


Pro-UK parties accuse the SNP of persuing a "neverendum" strategy of attempting to re-run the debate until they secure the result they want.


Mrs Sturgeon put ambitious plans for a massive extension of state-funded child care and real-terms increases in NHS spending at the centre of her campaign to win the next elections to the Scottish Parliament, as well as promising tax cuts for small businesses.

Polls suggest Labour are on course to lose swathes of seats in Scotland in 2015, and could be reduced to 10 or as few as four, with many of its heartland seats in areas that saw the strongest turnout for the separatist yes campaign. That could leave the Scottish Nationalist Party as the third biggest in Parliament.



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/SNP/11233496/SNP-name-their-price-abandon-Trident-to-put-Miliband-in-Downing-Street.html

The Future


Great minds "think" the same!

Perhaps, Australia could keep Dave.

Or perhaps: