Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

David Cameron could face no confidence vote – Mirror Online16/11/2014

David Cameron could face a vote of no confidence if the Tories crash to a heavy defeat in Thursday’s by-election, according to the Mirror.

Rattled backbench MPs are ready to trigger a leadership ­challenge if UKIP win Rochester and Strood in Kent by a big margin, party sources said.

The expected victory by ex Tory Mark Reckless could prompt more right-wingers to defect to Nigel Farage’s party, ­leading to a crisis. The PM admitted at the G20 summit in Australia that it would be a “sort of notch for them”.

He is preparing a major speech on the EU and immigration to try to recover from his likely loss.

Top Tories believe the only way to confront UKIP is to be tougher on immigration and EU reform, including threatening to leave.

Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond said: “We’re in the beginning stages of a negotiation and – first of all – never, never go into any negotiation unless you’re prepared to stand up from the table and walk away.”

A senior Tory claimed the PM could face the no confidence vote if he mishandles his party after the by-election. They said: “I know a number of colleagues who would ­seriously think about going for it.

“He is going to have to put together one hell of a meeting of the party and frankly apologise.”

This is interesting because only yesterday (Saturday), on Any Questions, panellists were saying it is far too late for Labour to ditch Ed Miliband and elect a new leader. Now it seems entirely likely that this is exactly what will happen to the Conservatives.

Ed must be laughing fit to burst; it seems doubtful that David Cameron will see the funny side.

GF,

I thought they labour were further ahead.

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Thinking about the SNP/LAB split .

I think the SNP are on a roll, but the vote for independence Yes 55% and No 45%.

Just guessing, but the I can't see that the swing at a GE to SNP will be much different except in a small number of their strong hold seats.

I think the majority of the Scots already consider Cameron and henchmen are a group of liars which will be shown up my Cameron's false promises on devolution, although he will continue to dump his responsibility onto Labour and Lib/Dems.

My guess after all the shouting is over the SNP they will gain by about 10-15 seats.

But must of their euphoria will be over before the G.E.

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The tories are looking more and more hollow.


Even John Major was telling Cameron to shut up and think and negotiate quietly.

Worth a look at his interview by Andrew Marr on his show this morning.

For me his was a sensible appraised of some of the EU and world's political problems.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-30032615

Yep saw it.

Major seems to be in better nick these days than when he was PM and would certainly do a better job than Camoron.

But Major wouldn't wish to be leader of such a festering bunch of malcontents that represents the tories of to-day.

Think of them as a party of hazeones, cynics and DB4, and Carsons, with a few Alds and Tinkers thrown in.

Would you want to, unless of course you had a short plank and deep water for them!

I think he had a bellyful last time.

I wonder who would win a leadership contest when Camoron is kicked out next friday.

Theresa May is keen, I suppose Giddeon would stand but his links with Camoron would be a big disadvantage, maybe Davies again. Maybe Redwood.

And all the while Milli is starting to pull back from his lows.

Ohh well back to the Tax Return, I always make sure my accountant sends it in next week then it lands on the inspectors desk pre Christmas week when the HMRC are on a 2 week stint of xmas parties and tend not to delve too much and pass through the returns without too much inspection.

Cameroon is short of supporters, because he knows little about loyalty himself.


However, when you look at the competition, millibum and clogg, even Cameroon looks half decent.

Not that it will save him, he's on the road to nowhere.

Next con leader odd's;


B Johnson 2/1

T May 4/1


http://www.paddypower.com/bet/politics/other-politics/uk-politics?ev_oc_grp_ids=1365245

Boris, well the Tories would never be eletoble with him as chief.

He may be liked but come GE day........well.

May is more popular amongst the Conservative MPs, but Cameron is not leaving. He is still the best leader and doing a good job. Boris could not be leader at the moment as he is not an MP.

Fred talking out of his arse again no change there.

Wallace and Grommett are history in Scotland well documented sub branch. Nicola Sturgeon is a force to be reckoned with up here. The Scottish people recognise that they may not all want independence but she and her party are in a far better position to squeeze every last drop of power for Scotland from Westminster.

I agree John Major spoke a lot of sense on the Andrew Marr programme today. Basically what he was saying is that Cameron needs to pull his finger out sharpish re negotiating a slowdown in immigration. Ukip have no policies, but have served their purpose in bringing the above to light due to the concerns of the people. Once Cameron achieves that goal interest in UKIP will be diminished.

No matter which party wins the Election, nothing has changed further, much deeper cuts are required. So that the only argument left or decision to make by the Electorate is who is best equipped to grow the economy. After Labour destroyed it (again) Conservatives elected in 2010 and it would be folly to elect a new government now!

Hays he'l take on camorons seat, for sure Davy will leave politics whens hes kicked out on friday.

Max,

Which half?

8-)


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May may suit the tories, she would fit nicely as leader of the grim remnants of a decease nasty party.

But as a Media and TV advert for the party she would be a winner for Labour.

Imagine coming down to breakfast and starting your day with her!

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LOL Fred. Your right.......YUK.

BJ could be an mp next month if they pulled their fingers out.


Perhaps they will come Friday morning.

Labour are presently as popular in Scotland as the England football team will be at Celtic Park on Tuesday night :0)

You obviously don't like intelligent women Fred. Harriet Harman would probably be better company for you - flaunting her feminist T -shirt while you munch through your bowl of cornflakes.

MaxK
How would BJ be an MP that quick? He can't just take another MPs seat. He would have to be elected as an MP. Someone would have to give up their seat and then have an election. The mechanics of it all are not reasonable. He would have to be voted as a new leader to even bother with the process, but he couldn't take part in a leadership vote without being an MP. It is just not possible.

Camorons seat you numpty.

Haystack.

What about the seat he has been promised (Hillingdon?)

Nov 16, 2014 11:50
OPINION BY MAILOPINION
MAIL OPINION welcomes Nicola Sturgeon as the country's next First Minister and hopes she can demonstrate the same hard-working ethos as leader as she did as a deputy.
YESTERDAY was a big day for Nicola Sturgeon and a big day for the country that she will, within a few days, be leading.

Smart, hard-working and capable, she shares all of our aspirations to live in a smart, hard-working and capable Scotland.

She comes from the same streets as the rest of us and seems to understand more than many of her colleagues what we want and expect from our government.

And, for the first time, the First Minister is a lady. That can only be a good thing.
It would be nice to think every day that she is in charge of Scotland could be as successful as yesterday. Then a whole nation, and not just a hall packed with SNP faithful, would rise in acclamation.
Sturgeon would be foolish to believe or expect these giddy days of surging SNP
membership and political dominance will last forever and she’s no fool.

As the applause and plaudits rained down on her yesterday, they might have drowned out the tiny, little voice at the back of her mind telling her this might be as good as it gets.

But when the cheers die down, it’ll be how Sturgeon responds which will shape how history will judge her time in office.
We’ve all had one – a colleague who works tirelessly, driven and determined, right up to the day they get The Big Job.

Then, once safely berthed in the corner office with the potted plant, they stop working tirelessly and start caring more about their air miles than their business.

Nothing Sturgeon has done in recent years would suggest she is one of them.

But, however nice it must be to be the lauded new leader of a resurgent party, she must get down to work – and soon.

After the flags are packed away from her stadium tour, Sturgeon needs to get back to Bute House and put a shift in.

She is too astute not to realise that Scots have had two years of constitutional debate and that, for many, is enough for now.

The new First Minister will lead a newly enthused and engaged party desperate to heave their fellow Scots over the line and win independence.

No one would expect her to miss any and all appropriate opportunities to bang the drum for that cause.
But, and it’s a big but, she must understand that what might strike the SNP and other Yessers as an appropriate opportunity might strike 55 per cent of the population as a waste of time and energy better spent improving our schools, hospitals and services; creating jobs and protecting workers; building homes and restoring communities.

In other words, improving Scotland and improving the lives of those who live here.

Stable and competent governance is the rock that, over the last seven years, the SNP have built their success on. It is the rock our new First Minister must continue to build on.

We wish her good luck.