Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Hmmm?

Does anyone want me to post up another picture of Katie Price?

There's a video on You porn if your that interested , ExecLine .......... lol

whoops! wrong bloody metal, you great fathead!!!
try nickel for stainless steel link

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Well said Tanks -):

Hays Hays Hays Lord Ashcroft Poll.

Labour retake lead after Tories held lead for just 1 week only in 2 years...........


Ashcroft National Poll: Con 29%, Lab 30%, Lib Dem 9%, UKIP 16%, Green 7%

By Peter Oborne
2:12PM GMT 17 Nov 2014
The contradictions between Ukip's Left and the Right threaten to tear the party apart

I suppose it was inevitable that, as Ukip gathered support, the party would start to collapse under the weight of its own contradictions.

An enormous split has now opened up over the economy. Indeed it is more correct to call it an abyss. It is far deeper and more divisive than anything currently going on inside the Conservative Party, or even in Ed Miliband's Labour Party.

On the one side is Ukip's libertarian Right, which wants Britain to resemble the United States as much as possible, with low taxes and minimal standards of social provision.

Its supporters say they look to Margaret Thatcher for their inspiration. But the truth is that Maggie Thatcher in office very rarely touched any of these advanced libertarian ideas, such as the flat tax.

This group cannot count for a great deal of support from ordinary members. It is, however, well represented among the small number of donors who dominate the party finances and can always rely on the ear of Nigel Farage.


Ukip also has a Left wing, and it is becoming clear that the party’s economics spokesman Patrick O’Flynn is its leader.

At Ukip’s party conference six weeks ago, Mr O’Flynn made a speech that appalled the libertarian Right of the party. Ever since then, its supporters have been intriguing against him and seeking to bring about his downfall.

There are two key elements of Mr O’Flynn’s speech. On the one hand, Mr O’Flynn advocated sharply raising income tax thresholds, so that middle earners did not come into the top rate of tax. This idea was promptly copied by David Cameron in his speech in Manchester the following week. Mr O’Flynn’s second idea was a tax on luxury goods, the so-called “Wag tax”. However, Ukip’s Right wing got hold of Nigel Farage immediately after Mr O’Flynn’s speech and forced the Ukip leader to distance himself from his economic spokesman.

The party's Right is now planning to strike again against Mr O’Flynn, as Andre Walker this morning reveals in a well-informed piece on Breitbart. According to Mr Walker, the senior members of Ukip are now making a concerted effort to get Mr O’Flynn removed.

One source is quoted as saying that Mr O’Flynn needs “does need to shut up with all talk of aggressive tax avoidance and bashing big business ... It's a real mistake to have a pinko in such an important position …” According to Breitbart, a letter will soon be circulated calling for him to go.

I should declare an interest. Mr O’Flynn was my colleague for many years on the Daily Express. He is a man who’s integrity and intellect I greatly admire. With his first-class degree in economics from King’s College Cambridge, he has always struck me as far more intelligent, and also far more connected with the views of ordinary voters, than George Osborne, the Chancellor.

I strongly believe that if the Ukip donors succeed in getting rid of Patrick O’Flynn it will mark the moment when the party returns to becoming a fringe movement of no significance. Mr O’Flynn’s emergence as a senior figure within the party has coincided with an exponential growth of party support amongst working-class voters, especially in the Midlands and the North. Indeed, as Matthew Goodwin pointed out in his article in the Telegraph today, Ukip support is by no means dependent on a small number of former Thatcherites.

Mr Farage claims to represent a different kind of politics to the mainstream political parties. There is some truth in this, but he is every bit as dependent on big powerful donors as is either David Cameron or Ed Miliband. He is in danger of allowing this dependence to damage the integrity of his party, with just six months to go before the general election.

The Telegraph

The by-election in Rochester and Strood this Thursday will give UKIP their second MP in as many months, hence Camerons pre-emptive pivot to the economy. The electorate is tired of politicians trying to ‘out UKIP, UKIP’. Cameron knows that the voters trust him a lot more on the economy than Messrs Clegg, Farage and Miliband. Nobody is listening to Cameron on Europe anymore, especially not the Europeans, no matter how right he may be. Hench why at the G20 he's chosen to talk about the 'red lights' of the economy the only subject he really has left..

I think hes frightened just how far unemployment will drop if we go into a recession plus hes using his political cap, having said that I think we may have a few months left yet of the bull.

Shortie.

Cameron and cohort Obsolete have only just found out that the world's economy effects the UK's economy. Perhaps, after what they have been on, the only colour that they can see is the red signs of the debt they are creating.

Debt, debt who mentioned debt.........



Weve never had it so good.

Well I think its nice for our to PM to finally be able to appear on TV and not look a complete twat, showing up the country! Finally he's learnt to leave Europe alone and UKIP, no ones really listening anyway, least of all the Europeans.... Cameron needs to understand that he should be siding with his own country if he wants support... A good first base might be if he appeared on Jackanory to see if he can hold any audiences attention!

LOL.

Worth a read if you haven't already..

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/david-cameron/11224868/Lies-damn-lies-and-David-Camerons-EU-policy.html

I think the barricades should go up again at all our ports.

Fortress England is what we need.

Captain Winston Cameron will defend the beaches once again against the bloody swine.

We don't need Europe because the Americans are coming and they will bail us out, especially the crap Captain Marvel spouts.

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Mind told he is packing for the Cayman Isles and shipping suitcases out there. Tell Michael that he is coming, but don't tell Ken Dodd, or he may want to pack his case and go with him.

I suppose they could take some of the Diddy Men from No 10 with them!

That's a piece which was published five days ago Shortie!

Fred, have you been on the wine already?!

Don't need.

Drinking fermenting green tea.

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Tell you what I am pondering is the effect of EU QE will be on UK.

The market is said to be jumping for joy!


umumum

fred - shame on you ..... effect and affect :-)

Tories go nuclear..




A Reckless vote will make your home worth less, Tories tell Rochester voters

Conservatives fighting Rochester and Strood byelection use fear of house price fall in bid to stop Ukip candidate Mark Reckless



Rowena Mason, political correspondent


The Guardian, Monday 17 November 2014 16.45 GMT



Kelly Tolhurst, Tory candidate in Rochester and Strood, at a debate with her Ukip rival Mark Reckless and Paul Francis, a local journalist. Photograph: Gareth Fuller/PA



The Conservative byelection candidate in Rochester and Strood has suggested some voters are worried that having a Ukip MP as their local representative could lead to a drop in house prices.

Kelly Tolhurst, the 36-year-old businesswoman fighting for the Tories, said she had won the support of many people who were not keen on the idea of a Ukip MP representing the Medway towns.

She mentioned the concern as something that voters had raised but other Conservatives are making the argument about falling house prices more explicitly as they enter the final four days of their campaign against Mark Reckless, the Ukip candidate and former Tory MP.

One Conservative MP campaigning on the high street with colleagues said: “The danger is if you vote Ukip the value of your house may go down.”

Asked if voters had actually raised this concern with her, Tolhurst said: “I have actually heard a few people say that to me but I’m not getting into that.




More desperation here: http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/nov/17/reckless-vote-will-make-your-home-worth-less-tories-tell-rochester-voters