Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

if it's a staggered tax, then i don't have quite as much objection, though the politics of jealousy is always exceedingly ugly

stan - questionable whether or not my own house exceeds the threshold ..... my parents' house is long sold now and the proper taxes paid on it of course

Of course, a sliding scale.

The more it's worth, the more you pay.

At what house valuation (on the downside) do you think the Mansion Tax will stop. You have to be naive to think the ordinary houseowner will escape the clutches of a needy government.
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Well Alf, this is very good news for you and me as such payments from you can now be quite justifiably recycled to the likes of me through my Sipp which I am in the process of in acting.. once again I thank you -):

the best way forward get out of the eu get all migrants out get all illegals out
will not need any more new homes doctors will be better service so will hospitals and schools . and losing 3 million jobs will mean nothing a better country to live in not full of low life scum from all over the world .

and if you do not like that
then a world war to finally wipe out the terrorist .

gf if we stay in the eu and all these migrants come to the uk in their millions like now we have over 8 million . who is going to look after them and pay their pensions
in old age . we are struggling now to manage . and getting worse ever day

answer this question please

A 2 million pound house in London is not a Mansion , more like a average size terrace house in some parts of London., large families need a big house and the working/none working class and immigrants have big families , so they would be hit with the tax or have it paid for by the tax payer, even the poll tax might be fairer

By Holly Watt, Whitehall Editor12:01AM GMT 18 Nov 2014
Labour has been accused of “catastrophically misunderstanding” the immigration system, after the Home Office attacked a flagship strategy before it was even announced by Yvette Cooper.
The Shadow Home Secretary was due to unveil the recruitment of 1,000 extra border guards, funded by a new electronic visa waiver, but Home Office sources said that her plans would only fund 59 new staff.
Under Miss Cooper’s plans, nationals in countries enjoying a "visa waiver" system of fast-track permission to enter the UK would be hit with a charge of around £10 per visit.
The Labour party said would more than cover the £45 million cost of the additional staff.
However, Home Office sources immediately said that the charges would not cover the 1,000 new staff, pointing out that only a few countries were affected by the visa waiver system. Only visitors from Oman, Qatar and the United Arab Emirates would be affected, with Kuwait due to join the scheme next year.
Given that less than a quarter of a million visitors from these countries would pay the charge a year, Home Office sources said that less than £2.5million would be raised by the new system.
“It is catastrophically wrong,” said a Home Office source. “They have completely misunderstood the whole immigration system.”
The source added that If Labour planned to extend the electronic visa waiver scheme to visitors from all countries that do not at present require a visa – such as the United States, Canada, New Zealand and Australia – they would be creating a complicated new system that would cost more to operate than it would recover in fees of £10 per person.
In her speech on immigration, Miss Cooper is due to accuse the Conservatives and the UK Independence Party of engaging in an “arms race of rhetoric”, making the debate polarised and unhealthy.
Her speech comes after the party leader Ed Miliband said last week that Labour would be "talking more about immigration as a party", but “always on the basis of Labour values, not UKIP values".
“Enforcement has got worse in the last five years. Under Theresa May basic checks are just not being done, and that is undermining confidence in the whole system,” Miss Cooper will say, highlighting concerns about border guards. “The number of people stopped and turned away at the border has halved.”
Miss Cooper will also highlight the dangers of human trafficking, as well as warning that the amount of drugs being seized at the borders has fallen.
“At Calais there are now serious and growing problems - where we have seen not just abuse but tragedy,” she will warn.
“Awful cases of young men camping by the roadside then leaping onto the wheel arches of passing lorries, only to be crushed and killed.”
The success of Ukip, who are likely to win a by-election in Rochester and Strood this week according to polling, has driven the main political to set out their views on immigration.
David Cameron is trying to control the number of immigrants from the European Union, but is facing fierce opposition from other European leaders.
The former Prime Minister Sir John Major has warned that public concern about EU immigration could push Britain out of Europe altogether.

Manuel.,

Greed and jealousy have their links.

Many old people are asset rich and cash poor. Where I live, every road is full of houses over £2m. They are mainly owned by pensioners who are living on small pensions. They couldn't pay a mansion tax. They bought the houses when they were quite cheap or they were left to them by parents. The tax is only going to apply to properties in London and the South East to any great extent. Even Milibands party don't like the tax.

We dont let them in.....simple. (or only a few that are needed for essential jobs if we are short here)

But we go about it the right way.

We dont make false promises that we cant carry out like Deceptive Dave eg, the European Arrest Warrant which all along was out of our hands but a Tory cover up went on to hide Deceptive Daves embarrassment.

Some more older links but worthy of a read I think.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2835646/Romanian-scrap-worker-pledges-bring-wife-five-children-join-UK-s-right-25-000-benefits-four-bedroom-house.html

http://jurist.org/paperchase/2014/11/eu-court-supports-germany-on-migrant-worker-benefit-refusal.php

SNP hails leads in Westminster & Holyrood polls.

A NEW POLL has given the SNP record leads in both Westminster and Holyrood voting intentions.

The Survation survey for the Daily Record put support for the SNP for the coming general election at 45.8%, compared with 23.9% support for Labour.

The Conservatives were on 16.7% and Liberal Democrats 6.1%.
According to the poll, support for the SNP at Holyrood was 50% in the constituency vote and 40.6% in the regional vote, ahead of Labour at 23% and 20.3% respectively.

The SNP said they were the largest leads for the party in Westminster and Holyrood voting intentions that Survation has ever recorded.

The Daily Record poll also found just 2% of Scottish voters completely trust Labour leader Ed Miliband.

• Alex Salmond: SNP ready for Westminster campaign

According to the study, 59% of those questioned distrust Mr Miliband, 62% distrust Prime Minister David Cameron and 63% distrust Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg, while 48% distrust outgoing First Minister Alex Salmond and 41% First Minister-in-waiting Nicola Sturgeon.

SNP Westminster leader Angus Robertson said: “This new opinion poll giving the SNP our biggest ever lead in a Survation poll for both Holyrood and Westminster elections is enormously encouraging. It reflects all recent surveys in underlining the strength of the SNP vote, and is a further demonstration that Labour and the other Westminster parties are facing a major backlash in Scotland.

“With a majority of people in Scotland saying that they distrust Ed Miliband, David Cameron and Nick Clegg, this poll is a disaster for all three Westminster parties.

“We take absolutely nothing for granted, and know there is a huge amount of hard work to be done in the weeks and months ahead - but there is no doubt that the SNP have momentum going into next year’s Westminster election.

“These record leads for the SNP - for both the UK and Holyrood elections - reflect the fact that people are putting their trust in the SNP to stand up for Scotland, and ensure that the ‘extensive new powers’ we were promised by the Westminster parties in the referendum are delivered.”

Survation interviewed 1,001 Scots online between November 6 and 13. The results were weighted by age, sex, region, 2011 Holyrood vote and the referendum vote.

A separate poll earlier this month suggested support for the SNP standing at 45% ahead of next year’s general election.

The Panelbase poll, which asked 1,000 people their Westminster voting intentions, found 28% would back Labour.

Excluding those who did not know how they would vote, the Conservatives secured the support of 15% while 7% said they would vote Ukip.

Some 3% intended to vote for the Lib Dems followed by the Greens on 1%, according to the poll commissioned for pro-independence politics blog Wings Over Scotland.

Japan has just announced that they have moved into recession. The Eurozone is borderline for recession at present. We are one of the few countries in better shape, but we may be dragged down by the others as our export markets dry up.

What Hays doesnt tell you is that the mansion tax doesnt have to be paid every year it can be deferred until after death, plus people on less than £40 grand income per year wont pay it.

So no old grannies in most cases wont pay it.

Deception again you see, hes picking it up of Deceptive Dave.

LOL...

During Miliband's beating last night on ITV, viewers took to twitter to comment!

Ed Miliband says he'll take on terrorists, two minutes later he loses an argument to Myleene Klass. #TheAgenda

Viewers took to Twitter to comment on the row, with some suggesting Klass had done a "Paxman" and had left Mr Miliband "looking like a rabbit in the headlights"

You know it's gone truly surreal when Myleene Klass goes full Paxman on Miliband. #theagenda

Poor @ed_miliband. Looks like a rabbit in the headlights in the face of an onslaught from, um, er, Myleene Klass. #TheAgenda

Ed Miliband totally trounced by Myleene Klass on ITV The Agenda. Tom Bradby had to stop the fight.

Myleene Klass is wiping the floor with Ed Miliband on The Agenda

How many people on average incomes will be caught out?
Almost zero. Despite reports that the tax will hit average homeowners who have seen their properties inflate in value, forcing them to sell up, the likelihood is very low. Labour said the “asset rich, cash poor” may be allowed to defer payment of the tax until they sell their property (or on death). “We’ll do it in a fair, sensible and proportionate way, raising the limit each year in line with average house prices and putting in place protections for those who are asset-rich and cash poor,” Balls said.

Aye, David must be laughing his what's it off.

I see Hays is preaching from the gutter again, alongside the right wing press and Deceptive Dave who have all got the colly wobbles this week because of the Rochester By election.