goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
TANKER
- 18 Nov 2014 12:55
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GELDOF A VILE HORRIBLE MAN WHO SHOULD KEEP IS MOUTH SHUT AND REFLECT ON WHAT HE AS DONE TO IS FAMILY
Chris Carson
- 18 Nov 2014 12:56
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Can only apologise re double posting, think it's a dodgy mouse.
Stan
- 18 Nov 2014 12:56
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Thanks for that H/S.. names please.
Haystack
- 18 Nov 2014 12:57
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Labour has said that the mansion tax will be levied through the current property tax system. The drawback to this, is a costly revaluation process by the councils. Then there will be endless appeals. How long will it take to collect a single penny? Could it be two years or maybe three? Another policy that has not been thought through.
Haystack
- 18 Nov 2014 13:00
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Geldof's business partner is venture capitalist Mark Florman, is a former deputy treasurer of the Tory Party. (not deputy chairman). Their business was worth £125m two and a half years ago.
Geldof is also registered as a non Dom, so doesn't pay income tax here.
TANKER
- 18 Nov 2014 13:01
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COUNCIL TAX FOR EVER ONE SHOULD BE 0.5% OF VALUE OF PROPERTY
cynic
- 18 Nov 2014 13:01
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MANSION TAX SI SIMPLE MAKE ANOTHER TAX BAND HOUSES OVER 2M 10K A YEAR
so you think it's a sensible tax to charge £10k on someone's house that is (said to be) worth £2.1m and exactly the same £10k if the house is (said to be) worth £50m?
if so, your logic is what exactly?
or perhaps you'ld like to engage the brain and think again
cynic
- 18 Nov 2014 13:05
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mansion tax valuation
it's easy enough to value a house that is part of a terrace or even a modern housing estate or similar
however, the more valuable properties are much more difficult to value as they are likely to be stand-alone - no i do not just mean detached! - and are often only worth what someone will pay for them - ie any value set will almost certainly be pretty subjective and provable with any accuracy
TANKER
- 18 Nov 2014 13:07
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O.5% OF VALUE IS FAIR TO ALL
cynic
- 18 Nov 2014 13:18
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it would be totally impossible to tax every single house in the country on an individual basis
it's bad enough at the moment where they are banded
the so-called valuations are fairly random too, but as the money raised is for local use it doesn't make so much difference
however, if it's to go to the exchequer, then true value - and how do you determine that? - is almost impossible to judge, especially on one-off houses
Haystack
- 18 Nov 2014 13:20
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The Daily Mirror is looking more silly every day. They are now the only paper that supports Miliband. This morning even the Guardian was laughing at Miliband over his TV performance las night. The Daily Mirror, steadfastly supported Miliband despite public views to the contrary. The Mirror must take the prize as Comic Paper of the Year.
Stan
- 18 Nov 2014 13:25
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Don't change the subject H/N.. names dear boy names.
goldfinger
- 18 Nov 2014 13:27
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Somethings upset Hays in the last few days..........I wonder what........Surely not ROCHESTER.
goldfinger
- 18 Nov 2014 13:28
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Yep come on Hays names.
Haystack
- 18 Nov 2014 13:29
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Where is the necessary army of valuers going to come from. Normally property is revalued over a long period with long gaps between. A Labour tax to help the NHS will need to be implemented quickly or their could be a new government before it is done. There will have to district valuers trained up in large numbers (cost). There will need to be new infrastructure and IT systems to collect part of the council tax for central government (cost). There will be endless tribunals to appeal valuations (cost). There will be means testing for ability to pay tax (cost). There will need to be infrastructure to monitor deferred payment of tax until death and then mechanisms to collect it then (cost).
How much will be left and how long before any money materialises.
An incoming Conservative government will no doubt repeal the legislation. Will they then just write off deferred payments for the majority who will still be alive. It looks like everyone will defer payment, hoping for a change of government.
Haystack
- 18 Nov 2014 13:30
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Names of whom?
Haystack
- 18 Nov 2014 13:34
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Geldof is currently worth about £100m. He was estimated to be worth only £32m two years ago. Nice business in Africa!
Shortie
- 18 Nov 2014 13:48
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Well I for one never knew Geldof was so bloody bent... It struck me as odd that he'd be doing this thing so soon after his daughters death but there you have it I suppose..
goldfinger
- 18 Nov 2014 13:53
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Well I wouldnt have believed it but HAYS is already beat and is expecting a LABOUR GOVERNMENT, hes already resigned to having Milliband in at nos 10 and after all the bluster this morning..............
refering to the Mansion tax....
Haystack - 18 Nov 2014 13:29 - 50600 of 50602
An incoming Conservative government will no doubt repeal the legislation. Will they then just write off deferred payments for the majority who will still be alive. It looks like everyone will defer payment, hoping for a change of government.
cynic
- 18 Nov 2014 13:55
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geldof et al
whatever you may think of geldof personally – I happen not to like the chap for all sorts of reasons, most of them silly – you cannot deny that he has raised the profile of ebola beyond measure
whether or not you think that cause is worthy of support is another matter, and you have the choice of whether or not you wish to donate, and if so, through what channel
personally, I would never give to Oxfam but really ought to have medecins sans frontiers on my charitable causes list, for i think they do an amazing job with little or no recognition in the big wide world
in conclusion, i think the vituperative and very personal attack on Geldof and his efforts is totally unwarranted