Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

i strongly recommend that you do not pass uninformed judgment on a case that is a long way from proven (by HMRC), and has all the hallmarks of being lost by HMRC

if that is the case, and certainly Ingenious has been in existence for a good number of years and backed some considerable box office successes, then the company will have been shown to have been far from being either dodgy or from concocting "extreme tax avoidance" ......

i suspect one needed to have had an awful lot of money to join the scheme in the first place and also to have been in a position whereby you could afford to lose most if not all of the investment

Yes H/S Green is a well known off shore tax scrounger, but is there a site that lists all of them or nearly all?

i wouldn't exactly call him a scrounger, but i am indeed mystified that he can seemingly get away with flying in and out of the country pretty much at will without exceeding the 90 day limit

the answer of course is almost certainly that we have our facts wrong!

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HMRC most wanted list
i'm sure there is one, and if i get a chance i'll trawl the net for you

starter for 10 ..... actually, there's alot more than that on the list .... www.hmrc.gov.uk/defaulters

Stan, I don't know about a list of off shore tax scroungers, but HMRC has a list of tax defaulters on their website.

This is also interesting http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/defaulters/defaulters-list.pdf

the above list is just of those who have "defaulted" and does not include those whom HMRC would very much like to interview
i cannot find a list of this latter bunch though i know there was one published in the Sundays a couple of years back

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/defaulters/defaulters-list.pdf

Yes thanks chaps but think those are the ones that have broken the law and been caught and not the people who are actively or historically avoiding and effectively scrounging off the rest of us who are paying tax in the "this" country by them squirrelling it out of this country.

I suspect H/S knows but is not posting as such, is that right H/S?

i concur Stan .... the list contains few that are much more than minnows
the interesting list, as published in the Sundays, named those who were residing in monaco and spain and the like .....

these people were keenly wanted for "interviewing" but as nothing had been proven against them, i guess HMRC cannot publish their details

a few months ago, i saw one of the above casually strolling around london .... i'm sure he entered the country on a legit passport, so it looked as though HMRC must have been away fro the weekend

You have to be careful what you publish on a public forum Stan!

There's no such a thing as an 'off shore tax scrounger'. That's just the typical socialist politics of envy yet again.

Philip Green does not need to worry about the 90 day rule as he does not get paid in the UK or anywhere. The profits go to his wife who lives in Monaco. There is no income tax in Monaco. When he is in London, he lives in a hotel paid for by the company based in Monaco. No income = no tax.

very neat, and though no doubt legal, it is one of those non-abuses that really sticks in the throat

at least the divi will be taxed at source, though i suspect that is at just 20% or 28%, if that is the system

If people of willing to pay tax to HMRC when they are able to legitimately avoid it, then more fool them.

Against the greedy ones sitting in the sun but often milking the resources of the country where the loot was made!


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Do you know this competent government had 15+years in the wilderness and four and half years to address some of the problems some of you are discussing.


I wonder why they haven't address some of them, perhaps the gainers from Status quo are the one's who fund their "own" the CONNERS' party of the ones who have deep pockets.

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No wonder Hazyone is running scared and diverting attention from the caning the tories are going to have in ROCHEST and in MAY 2015!

If there is a coalitions of Labour/Lib/Dem/SNP, with a large majority the tax situation may be addressed and simplified and solutions "imposed". Especially for those who place of work, or origin "income" is within the UK and benefits from being so, but live outside its borders in order to avoid their responsibilities.

HMRC is set up so that anyone not receiving income on a PAYE system is able to be creative with what they class as income. The day HMRC change the rules to tax all monies and benefits received not just what's classed as income the economy will surely collapse. Most tax dodging from what I've seen changes taxable income into non-taxable loans as described in the K7 dodge (google it for info). If however everyone paid tax on loans could you imagine what that would do to the banking sector and interest rates??

Against the greedy ones sitting in the sun but often milking the resources of the country where the loot was made!

the above is fair but emotional comment

unless the laws are changed, and no gov't in living memory has done much more than tweak at the edges, then i'm afraid the emotional (or moral) argument will lose out every time

of course, it's very easy to spout and rant about clamping down and draconian measures to be imposed to prevent "escape", but to write a law that will actually work and stick or even be enforceable let alone not be counter-productive is something totally different

Shortie,

I'm presuming you're referring to the K2 scheme, rather than K7, although I've heard that the K9 scheme can be a bit of a dog.

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lol... yes Hilary I stand corrected, K2 it is... it's been a long day..