Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Rather out of the blue there was also a Survation constituency poll of Stockton South earlier today – a Conservative held ultra-marginal, currently represented by James Wharton. The poll had topline figures of CON 39%(nc), LAB 37%(-1), LDEM 3%(-12), UKIP 18%(+15). Changes are from the general election and technically represent a tiny swing from Labour to the Conservatives.

heading for a hung parliament
shame we're not heading for hanging politicians too ...... heads on spikes on london bridge wouldn't be a bad idea either!

I am still not convinced that UKIP will have any MPs after the GE. Any gains they make now will have to be won again at the GE. There is plenty of time for UKIP to be discredited.

All party's have tried to discredit UKIP and failed , and their dirty tricks have backfired on them

QT 2nite

Labour tosser Andy Burnham on the panel , last time he was on he was a ridiculed

You cant ridicule a turd.

Max,

Some are ridiculing you and you don't seem to notice!

So ======

So what Fred?

So kick Hays's ass.

cynic the uk is now a cesspit of corruption and it all started with the boe king and is merry men

TANKER

They could be Gay men

They are doing some sort of half arsed poll on twitarse via the torygraph.

The boos are winning

here: Rochester by-election live: what is Britain saying about Ukip?

That link is broken!

UKIP confused again last night - bunch of idiots!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-30118855

UKIP: Should Polish plumbers be deported?

"Go back home". That's the phrase which captures one of the most controversial ideas in British politics - the idea that some immigrants, even those here legally, should be deported.

No wonder then that the failure of UKIP's by-election candidate to clearly reject the idea has caused such a fuss.

Twice last night Mark Reckless was asked whether a Polish plumber who lives in Rochester would be able to stay in the country if Britain decided to leave the EU.

First he said the Polish plumber might be allowed to stay for a fixed period then he said UKIP would look sympathetically at the cases of people who'd been here for a long time.

This morning UKIP said their candidate had been misunderstood.

Then they claimed he'd been asked about illegal immigration. He had not and a Polish person would, in any event, have been here legally.

Hours later the party leader Nigel Farage told me that his candidate was confused after a long campaign.

By Telegraph View
6:25AM GMT 20 Nov 2014
Telegraph View: Nigel Farage's party can no longer get away with simply behaving like the outsiders of British politics

In all likelihood, the people of Rochester and Strood will elect the same MP in today’s by-election as they did at the general election in 2010. The reason why this contest has caused such consternation and attracted the attention of so many politicians and media pundits is that this time he is standing for Ukip rather than the Conservatives.

Such is the febrile nature of modern politics, and so great the apparent disaffection of the electorate, that they will re-elect Mr Reckless under his new colours whether he would make a good MP or not. After all, was he really such an assiduous champion for his constituency before he joined Nigel Farage’s insurgency, as he now claims to have been?

He was, for example, in favour of a big housing development on former MoD land on the Hoo peninsula when he was a Tory – yet is now opposed to the same scheme. He has made blocking the plans on a natural conservation site, home to a flock of nightingales, a key plank in his by-election campaign.Since a central element of Ukip’s appeal is that the “mainstream” parties are always saying one thing and doing another, this about-turn is indefensible. But there is a pattern here. Mr Reckless yesterday suggested that EU migrants would be asked to leave the country if Ukip ever formed a government and withdrew the UK from Europe.

“In the near term we’d have to have a transitional period, and we should probably allow people who are currently here to have a work permit at least for a fixed period,” he said. However, within hours his comments had been disowned by the party, which said he had “misunderstood the premise of the question”. As immigration is a central issue in a by-election that Mr Farage has called the most important for 30 years, such casual flip-flopping is at best careless and at worse, it must be said, reckless.

The voters of Rochester and Strood may well return a Ukip MP in order to give the two big parties a bloody nose. They also have the luxury of doing so in a by-election that does not even change their representative in Parliament. But should they return Mr Reckless, they might wish to reflect at the general election in a few months’ time upon the way he and his new party have conducted themselves in this contest.

Following the election of Douglas Carswell at Clacton, Ukip may well have two MPs by tomorrow. The party can no longer get away with simply behaving like the outsiders of British politics, free to dish out criticism but outraged when it is directed towards them. Over the next few months, their policies on every issue should be subjected to the closest possible scrutiny.

Not sure what happened there Haystack, here is the link again.



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ukip/11241479/Rochester-by-election-live-what-is-Britain-saying-about-Ukip.html

Max,

I think there was a problem between the chair and the keyboard.

:o)

Very likely hilly :-)

The truth about East European migration: One in 30 Latvians are living in Britain, one in 60 Poles are also over here - and statistics don't even show latest influx
Statistics show 1.3 per cent of Eastern Europeans living anywhere in Europe are now in the UK
Britain is giving citizenship to more migrants than any other EU country, figures show
Since 2000, more than 2.1m migrants have acquired British citizenship
Data compiled by independent Migration Observatory at Oxford University
Romanian and Bulgarian migrant numbers have also continued to increase

By Jack Doyle And James Chapman For The Daily Mail


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2841686/The-truth-East-European-migration-One-30-Latvians-living-Britain-one-60-Poles-statistics-don-t-latest-influx.html#ixzz3JdAyuEuh
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