Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

#Ukip are NOT ahead of #Labour, despite what the @Daily_Express says!

Because he is a W⚓ #CameronMustGo

It's bloody obvious why #CameronMustGo

SNP membership hits 90,000 after party hold spectacular rally at Glasgow Hydro


Nov 23, 2014 19:40 By Martin Belam
ONE in 60 Scots now belong to the party, giving the Scottish Nationalists the third biggest party membership in the UK.

THE SNP membership bandwagon shows no sign of stopping.

Just two months ago, we reported that they had become the third largest party in the UK by membership, when they hit the 65,000 members mark.

At the weekend the SNP held a spectacular rally in Glasgow with over 10,000 attendees, and revealed that their membership numbers have now soared to over 90,000.

That’s an incredible 350% rise since the party lost the Scottish Independence Referendum in September, and, assuming the members are mostly based in Scotland, it means that around one in 60 Scots belongs to the party.

The SNP have been criticised for holding a massive public rally so soon after Scotland voted “No” to independence, but despite losing the vote and losing Alex Salmond as their leader, the surge in membership will buoy them up.

The other party celebrating membership growth is UKIP. It’s much slower growth than the SNP, but last month the party announced it had broken through the 40,000 mark.

By Holly Watt, Whitehall Editor
6:18PM GMT 24 Nov 2014
Lord Ashcroft polling puts Labour ahead, but with questions over Miliband leadership

Only a fifth of voters believe that Ed Miliband will be Prime Minister after the election, according to polling carried out by the Conservative peer Lord Ashcroft.

Lord Ashcroft’s polling showed that the Labour party are on course to win a majority, despite most voters believing that David Cameron will continue as Prime Minister after May.

The polling showed that the Labour party is now five points ahead of the Conservatives, suggesting that the resignation of Emily Thornberry last week did not harm the party.

However, 59 per cent of voters thought that Mr Cameron would remain Prime Minister.

“Though all outcomes seem possible, most voters just do not think Mr Miliband will reach Downing Street,” said Lord Ashcroft. “That in itself could be an indicator of whether they will ultimately be prepared to put him there.”

The polling showed that 32 per cent of voters would vote for Labour, while 27 per cent would vote for the Conservatives. Labour’s vote rose by two points, while the Tories fell two points.

Meanwhile, a poll by Populus put Labour at 36 per cent and the Conservatives on 31 per cent.

The Ashcroft polling showed that the UK Independence Party’s vote share increased two points to 18 per cent in the wake of their second by-election in Rochester and Strood. The Liberal Democrat vote share fell to 7 per cent, after the party lost its deposit in the Kent by-election.

The Liberal Democrats got only 349 votes in Kent – 0.87 per cent of the votes cast – raising concerns about an electoral meltdown in 2015.

Lord Ashcroft said that it was notable that “the two largest parties have achieved a combined share of just 59% for five out of the last six weeks”.

The Conservative peer – known for his tense relationship with the Tory central office – said that the as smaller parties become more influential and the political scene became more fragmented, parties would have to fight constituencies seat by seat.

Some 40% thought the Conservatives would be in Government and 39% Labour. Of those, 27% thought Tories would be governing alone, rather than in a coalition, while 26% said it would be a Labour-only administration.

Of the 26% who thought there would be a coalition involving Lib Dems, half thought it would be with Labour and half with the Tories.

However, it is voters’ lack of belief in Mr Miliband that will worry Labour strategists.

#CameronMustGo & he can take the rest of the Tories with him

Latest poll which shows a big gap is opening up again............

Populus put Labour at 36 per cent and the Conservatives on 31 per cent.

5 percent as per Lord Ashcrofts poll...........fall out over Rochester.

The polls are not showing the real picture. The average polling % for Labour is above the seats that they will get. The polls are showing their support spread evenly across the UK. That doesn't take into account their potential losses in Scotland where their % support is very low. There are less people per constituency in Scotland. The polls across the UK may have Labour even with the Conservatives, but their losses in Scotland will drop them down to second place.

Scotland, Scotland Scotland!!!!!!!

Rubbish and you know it.

Labour could say exactly the same thing about the UKIP effect on polls for the Tories.

Labour are not even with the Tories the trend is showing a 5% lead for Labour now.

Just remember Hays

your boys have taken one hell of a beating, one hell of a beating.

A HELL OF A BEATING?

I DON'T THINK SO WALTER...........(MITTY)

Poor Ed - even his friends call him a 'bad luck magnet'

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This was meant to be the weekend when the unforgiving political spotlight shifted from Ed Miliband to David Cameron. But Emily Thornberry’s sneering tweet has put Labour’s woes front and centre.
As one Miliband confidant says dejectedly: ‘We have become a magnet for bad luck and bad timing.’
Thornberry now has the dubious distinction of uniting Miliband critics and loyalists alike in condemnation of her stupidity. One Labour MP slated it as ‘Emily being a poverty tourist’.
But Labour is bitterly divided over how the incident was handled. Several of Miliband’s longest-standing political allies feel that the party machine has badly mishandled the issue and made the leader look inauthentic and ridiculous. And that the heavy-handed sacking of Thornberry has blown up in their faces and allowed the Tories to slink away relatively unscathed from defeat in Rochester.
Some Miliband backers are also deeply suspicious of the motives of the Labour people who demanded Thornberry’s head. As one Labour frontbencher puts it: ‘It’s not really about her but about other people who live in North London.’
The suspicion is that the real target of the attack on the Islington set is Miliband’s own office, which includes two Oxford politics dons who live there.
Miliband’s brutality in sacking a long-standing supporter has sent shivers through the ranks. As one member of the Shadow Cabinet mutters darkly: ‘Life expectancy levels have collapsed markedly.’
But what’s really stung Labour is that the weakness of Miliband’s position has allowed the crisis to escalate. ‘If we were stronger, we could have seen this out,’ complains one Shadow Cabinet member, while a downhearted Labour frontbencher gloomily concedes: ‘It’s a reflection of where we are... if this had happened 18 months ago, they could have laughed this off.’
And Labour figures don’t expect things to improve any time soon. One warns: ‘We have to be prepared for a drama every week.’ And, in the damning assessment of one Shadow Minister, this is because ‘if you haven’t got a compelling narrative, that’s what’s going to happen’.
So what can Labour do? ‘We can’t have another relaunch,’ cautions one member of Miliband’s circle.
So, this week Labour will return to its all-too-familiar argument that the Tories and their recovery is for the few and they are for the many. They’ll also be turning up the volume on immigration, as the Labour high command is convinced this is a prerequisite to winning over voters on other issues such as the NHS and living standards.
For their part, the Tories have to – as David Cameron puts it – get the boulder of immigration off the road before they can push on for victory. One senior Downing Street figure says: ‘The faster you move it, the quicker you can accelerate down the road.’
This is why there is a growing group urging Cameron to bring forward his big speech on immigration – and make it before the autumn statement on December 3. I’m told by a Downing Street source that once the speech is done, ‘All we talk about is the economy and issues of national security’.
Immigration all over by Christmas? I suspect that Mr Farage may have something to say about that.


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This was meant to be the weekend when the unforgiving political spotlight shifted from Ed Miliband to David Cameron. But Emily Thornberry’s sneering tweet has put Labour’s woes front and centre.
As one Miliband confidant says dejectedly: ‘We have become a magnet for bad luck and bad timing.’
Thornberry now has the dubious distinction of uniting Miliband critics and loyalists alike in condemnation of her stupidity. One Labour MP slated it as ‘Emily being a poverty tourist’.
But Labour is bitterly divided over how the incident was handled. Several of Miliband’s longest-standing political allies feel that the party machine has badly mishandled the issue and made the leader look inauthentic and ridiculous. And that the heavy-handed sacking of Thornberry has blown up in their faces and allowed the Tories to slink away relatively unscathed from defeat in Rochester.
Some Miliband backers are also deeply suspicious of the motives of the Labour people who demanded Thornberry’s head. As one Labour frontbencher puts it: ‘It’s not really about her but about other people who live in North London.’
The suspicion is that the real target of the attack on the Islington set is Miliband’s own office, which includes two Oxford politics dons who live there.
Miliband’s brutality in sacking a long-standing supporter has sent shivers through the ranks. As one member of the Shadow Cabinet mutters darkly: ‘Life expectancy levels have collapsed markedly.’
But what’s really stung Labour is that the weakness of Miliband’s position has allowed the crisis to escalate. ‘If we were stronger, we could have seen this out,’ complains one Shadow Cabinet member, while a downhearted Labour frontbencher gloomily concedes: ‘It’s a reflection of where we are... if this had happened 18 months ago, they could have laughed this off.’
And Labour figures don’t expect things to improve any time soon. One warns: ‘We have to be prepared for a drama every week.’ And, in the damning assessment of one Shadow Minister, this is because ‘if you haven’t got a compelling narrative, that’s what’s going to happen’.
So what can Labour do? ‘We can’t have another relaunch,’ cautions one member of Miliband’s circle.
So, this week Labour will return to its all-too-familiar argument that the Tories and their recovery is for the few and they are for the many. They’ll also be turning up the volume on immigration, as the Labour high command is convinced this is a prerequisite to winning over voters on other issues such as the NHS and living standards.
For their part, the Tories have to – as David Cameron puts it – get the boulder of immigration off the road before they can push on for victory. One senior Downing Street figure says: ‘The faster you move it, the quicker you can accelerate down the road.’
This is why there is a growing group urging Cameron to bring forward his big speech on immigration – and make it before the autumn statement on December 3. I’m told by a Downing Street source that once the speech is done, ‘All we talk about is the economy and issues of national security’.
Immigration all over by Christmas? I suspect that Mr Farage may have something to say about that.


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back from spain . the Spanish think the uk is a nation of idiots allowing their country to be over run and their gov think it is good .well it as killed spain . and now we are kicking out the scum coming to spain we give them nothing

can we not get away from this daily, incessant and monotonous drone that is far worse than severe tinnitus?

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there was a very entertaining and indeed interesting prog on The Tatler last night which i note has a few more to follow

CAMERON IS JUST A LIAR AND AS FCUKED UP THE UK ALONG WITH IS ETON SCUM
LABOUR PARTY NOW 5 POINTS INFRONT
CONS 27
LAB 32
UKIP 18
LIB SCUM 7

SNP WILL HOLD THE POWER

the above adds up to 84% so are the other 16% "don't know" or what?

if this is meant to be a nationwide reflection, the what % are snp forecast to hold?
i suppose more to the point, the question should be how many seats are labour likely to lose to snp, and what then happens to the projected seats across the board?

Yeah Heeeee

WHEN YOU ATTACK THE DISABLED THE PEOPLE WILL REVOLT
stop all foreign aid if you can not support your own disabled