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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

cynic - 06 Sep 2016 16:58 - 5150 of 12628

that's bollocks!
of course "indigenous workers" can get these jobs, though many will not be prepared to work the hours for the pay on offer ..... i'll revert to my usual of courier drivers and agricultural workers and similar


it was your comment about the housing that was totally fatuous


oh jeepers ..... now we have post 5149
you must have been down the pub or worse at lunchtime and beyond

grannyboy - 06 Sep 2016 23:21 - 5151 of 12628

cynic 5151

"that's bollocks!
of course "indigenous workers" can get these jobs, though many will not be
prepared to work the hours for the pay on offer....."

Not if if they're advertised in countries abroad, and on the one hand you say
they can get these jobs, then you go on to denigrate them by claiming they
would'nt want to work for less money and longer hours....Would YOU?

You also seem totally oblivious to the fact that foreign workers come here and
then 4/6/8/10 are sharing one house.

Not only is it hard for indigenous workers to find employment, they have to put
up with zero hours, or temporary or short term work, it also means there is a lack
of choice so its no good saying if you don't like your present employment find some
thing else.

And what's my comment about the housing that was totally fatuous,,,Please explain?

grannyboy - 06 Sep 2016 23:32 - 5152 of 12628

As to...

"ho jeepers..... now we have post 5149
you must have been down the pub or worse at lunchtime and beyond"


Yes I thought it was unbelievable if i hadn't seen it with my own eyes, after
all they are angels and we need someone to look after our old folk, and it wouldn't
look good if it was brought out into the publics gaze that if this is what we import
then I for one won't be asking for home help from our foreign 'friends'..

And judging by your testy manner i'd say your lycra cycling shorts are getting
too tight from the good life you lead...LMFAO!!

cynic - 07 Sep 2016 08:53 - 5153 of 12628

you seem to be MrT's protege
enough said

grannyboy - 07 Sep 2016 11:22 - 5154 of 12628

You seem like you can't put an argument together and could'nt fight your
way out of a wet paper bag...YOU limp wristed liberal wimp!!

mentor - 07 Sep 2016 12:01 - 5155 of 12628

VoilĂ  ... Before was the fence, now the Wall ........next try to keep them out in big numbers, but will the refuges have anything under the sleeve in the future! ........


Work on Calais wall to start this month, Britain says

LONDON, Sept 7 (Reuters) - Work on building a wall in the northern French port of Calais to try to stop refugees and migrants from jumping aboard trucks bound for Britain will begin this month, according to British officials.

Immigration minister, Robert Goodwill, told lawmakers that security was being stepped up in Calais, home to the "Jungle" camp where thousands of migrants fleeing war and poverty in the Middle East and Africa hope to cross the English Channel to Britain.

"The security we're putting in in the ports is being stepped up with equipment," Goodwill said on Tuesday, referring to a 17 million pounds ($22.75 million) package of security measures agreed by Britain and France in March this year.

"We are going to start building this big new wall as part of the 17 million package that we are doing with the French ... We've done the fence and now we're doing the wall."

The wall, which is expected to be four metres (13 ft)high and be built along both sides of a 1-km (0.6 mile) stretch of the Rocade port approach road, should be completed by the end of this year.

dreamcatcher - 07 Sep 2016 12:04 - 5156 of 12628

How stupid and waste of money. Have they never heard of a ladder, to climb over the wall?

Fred1new - 07 Sep 2016 12:11 - 5157 of 12628

I can remember the time of barb wire on the coastal beaches to keep the enemy out.

Unfortunately, the UK has its now has its own enemy within the UK "borders" who are wanting to put the wire up.

I wonder what it will cost to patrol the coastlines to prevent the other "enemy" ie. the "immigrants" from landing and invading the UK this time.

VICTIM - 07 Sep 2016 12:20 - 5158 of 12628

Probably no more than all the money WE would spend giving them a house and paying them to live on for the rest of their lives .

ExecLine - 07 Sep 2016 14:59 - 5159 of 12628

Now 'ladders are easy' but they do leave a need for you to add an extra sparkle to your 'Immigrant Wall Jumping Kit' with a pair of helpful accessories for both sides of the wall:

Fred1new - 08 Sep 2016 07:57 - 5161 of 12628

Oh to be conned by Matron.


VICTIM - 08 Sep 2016 08:01 - 5162 of 12628

Your a card you are Freda .Are you the other Joker .

iturama - 08 Sep 2016 10:13 - 5163 of 12628

Looks very much like the EU's trade deal with the US is, at best, on hold. Gone to the back of the queue it seems. Now that leaves the field open for the UK but apart from the sunshine and Apple, do we really need anything from the USA?

VICTIM - 08 Sep 2016 10:21 - 5164 of 12628

There's Obama telling us we should stay in the EU and they can't even agree on things , makes me laugh .

Fred1new - 08 Sep 2016 11:29 - 5165 of 12628

The hang man's laugh?

VICTIM - 08 Sep 2016 11:46 - 5166 of 12628

Lost me there , explain .

Fred1new - 08 Sep 2016 12:57 - 5167 of 12628

Look it up!

MaxK - 08 Sep 2016 13:48 - 5168 of 12628

If this isn't taking the piss, I don't know what is.




Non! Jobless French migrant family of 10 TURN DOWN a new five-bed council house because it 'didn't even have a dining room'

Unemployed couple with eight children refused five-bed council house

Arnold Mballe Sube and his wife Jeanne now claim they are 'neglected'

Claim they need property with at least six double rooms to be comfortable

They currently live in a three-bedroom, end-of-terrace home in Luton


By Emma Glanfield for MailOnline

Published: 14:49, 7 September 2016 | Updated: 07:27, 8 September 2016


An unemployed couple with eight children claim they are being 'neglected' after a council offered them a new five-bed home that 'didn't even have a dining room'.

Arnold Mballe Sube and his wife Jeanne, 33, currently share their three-bedroom, end-of-terrace home in Luton, Bedfordshire, with their eight young children.

But the couple claim they need a property with at least six double bedrooms for them to live comfortably.





They claim the conditions of their current home are 'terrible', but turned down the chance to live somewhere roomier over a lack of storage space.

Mr Sube, 33, said: 'Me and my family have been neglected, we are living in a three bedroom house and there's not enough room for us to live - there's ten of us.

'It's so cramped and the conditions are terrible, my children are starting school and we can't stay here any longer - we need a bigger house.

'The council is trying to make things hard for us, my wife is a full time mother and I am a student.



More unbelievable shit here: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3777922/Jobless-couple-eight-children-say-neglected-council-offered-new-five-bed-home-didn-t-dining-room.html

cynic - 08 Sep 2016 14:00 - 5169 of 12628

so he's a full time student at 33 is he
clearly studying advanced scamming
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