Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Try an experiment.


Pop over to La Belle France.

Go to the local job centre/council offices and demand housing, healthcare, and pocket money whilst you look for non existent jobs.


See what happens.

I propose Hays volunteers.

By Tim Stanley
10:32AM GMT 28 Nov 2014
David Cameron's speech on immigration and the EU threatens to shoot Ukip's fox. Tim Stanley gives two cheers to the emergence of a non-xenophobic take on migration and foreign affairs

This is one of those David Cameron speeches that lends itself to cautious hyperbole. I'm calling it "potentially historic". And in Cameron land, that's as good as it gets.

The Prime Minister's rhetoric on immigration and the EU pivots the Government away from simply promising a debate about our relationship with the European Union and towards outright Euroscepticism. The stuff about immigration and benefits is politically savvy. A lot of people oppose unrestricted EU immigration because of its effect upon jobs and British culture. But probably more – especially among the middle classes – are specifically worried about its cost to the taxpayer. By saying that a Conservative government will effectively turn off the benefits tap, Cameron is shooting Ukip’s fox and reclaiming the issue for the Tories. And the proposals are bold in their meanness. No in-work benefits for new arrivals for four years, no social housing for four years, no benefits for children living abroad, and EU migrants will be asked to leave if they don’t have a job after six months. It’s thought that these measures could affect over 300,000 people currently working in the UK.


Implicit in this approach is the idea that Britain has a welfare problem rather than an immigration problem – a non-racist line of argument that millions will find attractive. Because we’re too generous, the argument goes, we a) discourage hard work among the natives and b) encourage outsiders to make the UK their home in the hope of getting their hands on some of that sweet welfare cash. In the long term, Cameron’s experiment in turning off the migration magnet could potentially be applied to British citizens, too. Why, the question might be asked, do we provide in-work benefits to anyone of any background to subsidise low pay? Why not simply cut taxes for the poorest, thus letting them keep more of what ought to be decent wages paid out by employers who are enjoying soaring profits?

But the real headline-grabbing shift in this speech is Cameron’s personal attitude towards the EU. The Prime Minister has hitherto said that the plan is to renegotiate Britain’s relationship and then campaign to stay in during the 2017 referendum. But that argument contained a serious logical flaw: if Cameron didn’t get what he wanted in the renegotiation process, why would he campaign to remain part of a Union that has definitively acted against Britain’s interests (as Dave defines them)?

Now we can infer a new answer: he wouldn’t. From the speech: “If you elect me as Prime Minister in May, I will negotiate to reform the European Union, and Britain’s relationship with it. This issue of free movement will be a key part of that negotiation. If I succeed, I will, as I have said, campaign to keep this country in a reformed EU. If our concerns fall on deaf ears and we cannot put our relationship with the EU on a better footing, then of course I rule nothing out.”

“I rule nothing out” is an invitation to us to read “I will campaign to leave.” And given that Cameron’s demands fly so brazenly in the face of EU agreements – to discriminate against EU migrants within the benefits system is, basically, illegal – it is, for the first time, possible to imagine a Tory prime minister leading the campaign to leave the EU. This represents the most dramatic change in British foreign policy since Harold Wilson’s considerably more neutral Common Market referendum in 1975. And that change is entirely understandable. Britain has been humiliated time and time again by the EU – of which the election of Jean-Claude Junker was the strongest signal that our European partners are not favourable to reform. The astonishing new numbers of immigrants reported by the ONS also validate those who argue that our current relationship is unacceptable to many voters: some 228,000 EU citizens came here last year alone.

Make no mistake, Cameron is motivated by the rebellion on the Right of the political spectrum, rather than high principle. But who cares what the motivations are, so long as the policy is correct? An extraordinary coalition of forces has emerged to reshape British policy. On the one hand, Ukip – frequently dismissed as a moonbat crazy person’s party with no staying power – has forced Westminster to recognise the synchrony of European and immigration issues and address both with due respect. On the other hand, Cameron – essentially a Europhile Prime Minister who has built his entire reputation upon leading the Tories away from such “nasty” issues – has rejected his instinct to hold onto the centre ground and decided to make the Right’s issues his own. Right-wingers will cry “opportunist” and Left-wingers will say “traitor”. But for the majority of sensible, clear-minded Britons who have long thought Britain couldn’t reform the EU unless it threatened to leave, this is something of a breakthrough.

Cameron, against his better instincts, has a vote winner on his hands. Let’s hope that this time he stands by his word.

The Telegraph

they'll readily provide you accommodation ..... you'll be referred to the housing officer in sangatte

LOL.

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh no, crack heads back again. Whats wrong with him doesnt he have a home to go to. Must be Hays hes got his eye on.

DB4,

If you believe the conclusion of your posting you are onto a loser.

Cameron, is a jinx for the Cons' hopes.

Fred Camoron is back trending on twitter aswel. He fell out of the top10 for a few hours yesterday but is back now.

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It looks to me as though more folks are concerned about putting their bats out than they are in either David Cameron or Andrew Mitchell, Fishfinger.

My oh my, what interesting lives you northern folks lead. Will you be polishing your ferret tonight in front of an open fire?

That's a very unpleasant image. Is shining one's ferret an alternative phrase for something else?

It depends on the company you keep!

I hadn't looked upon it as a euphemism, Haystack. Maybe Fishfinger could enlighten us all on the nocturnal cultural experiences of northerners.

I thought you were a woman of experience!

8-)

per yesterday's little bit of fun, i'm sure hils makes a good domme :-)

You'll give my husband ideas, Cyners!

:o)

If Hils got a dodgy leg what is she doing going skiing??????

Anyway a sports injury as you called it is just an excuse for being not fit.

Its always the same sports people who dont do the right training or the wrong training that pick up sports injuries........and thats a fact.

Look at Wiltshire at assanal, dodgy ankle injuries and why because he doesnt look after himself properly, caught smoking on tour , smoking in this day and age and hes supposed to be a pro. !!!!!!!!!!!!

I played semi pro Rugby Union for Leeds Carnegie prop forward and in 17 years never had a so called sports injury, I was fit, fit as a fiddle and still am.

Sports injurys are excuses for not being fit.

You don't need a good leg for apres ski.

You might be physically as fit as a fiddle gf, but there's something seriously gone wrong with your head.

Well if you had any idea what you were talking about, Fishfinger, I'd explain it to you in more detail. But, suffice to say, ACL ruptures have nothing whatsoever to do with fitness levels.