Crocodile
- 16 Dec 2002 03:59
Bones
- 29 Oct 2006 19:47
- 5167 of 11003
I have what appears to be a Windows failure on my main computer. Windows XP Pro SP2 running. My daughter tends to be the main user these days as I have my trusty lappie. She is usually on MSN with friends and constantly downloading pics and god knows what else, making websites from Piczo.com etc etc.
Today the thing froze on her and a reboot resulted in the black DOS page saying there was a problem, either start Windows Normally or start using last known working configuration, or use Safe Mode. Usually, last known good config is sufficient, but none of these works. The safe mode comes up with a long list of file names which I have to escape from. The others reboot into the same black DOS screen.
What happens here is there is a millisecond exposure of a blue screen (the sort that shows the technicals of an error - xxxoooooo263784995 etc - you know the thing) but it doesn't stay long enough for me to read it. Instead it just tries to load Windows but goes "click" and presto - black DOS screen.
I assume I have a Windows corruption, and I have no idea what all the BIOS stuff means when I press DEL or TAB to get into those working screens for techies.
Can someone suggest what the problem might be and whether I have any remedies?
The loss of data isn't critical (my daughter might argue otherwise) and I some stuff backed up on a Western Digital hard drive although quite how I recover it I'm not sure. I don't have a boot disk, which may be my fault for not making one?
Thoughts are appreciated before I decide to simply reload Windows from the original Disk and start afresh!
DocProc
- 29 Oct 2006 20:10
- 5168 of 11003
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Optimist
- 29 Oct 2006 20:29
- 5169 of 11003
Bones
Reloading Windows from the original disk is a last resort, and as the problem may be disc corruption I suggest that in that event, you invest 50 in a new hard disk and install to that. That would leave everything on your old disk for later recovery and is the route you should take if data is important.
As you're not too worried about the data, you should be able to recover the disk by using utillities on the original installation disk. Boot from the installation CD and select the recovery console option (I forget the exact entry path, but it comes up before the main installation, and is the recovery option that does not need a boot disk).
The recovery console will boot into an MSDOS type screen and has a number of recovery commands - including help. Most of them are really good for experts, but mere mortals can use chkdsk. Type chkdsk followed by a space then /? followed by enter to find a list of options.
From memory, you should use chkdsk c: /r but you need to verify the syntax. This will check and attempt to repair any disk errors, when it is finished try rebooting the computer if it still refuses to load windows, boot from the installation disk again, follow the prompts untill it finds your existing installation and you will be given an option to attempt repair of the system. When you select this, the original installation will be recovered but with most of your programs and preferences still installed. You will have to go through multiple Windows updates to bring the system up to date.
Seymour Clearly
- 29 Oct 2006 21:41
- 5170 of 11003
Bones, is this any help - following on from Optimist's post:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314058
greekman
- 30 Oct 2006 14:56
- 5172 of 11003
DocProc,Bolshi,
Update.
Just after I received your advice, several priority security updates were received from Microsoft. I installed these and now everything is fine. Must have been a weakness in the new IE7 system, or a niggle in my own set up that the updates cured.
But anyway, Thanks again to both.
Greek.
Bones
- 30 Oct 2006 15:21
- 5173 of 11003
Optimist, Seymour, thanks for those advices. I am not confident I can decipher a lot of that MS spiel so it might be a case of forking out for an IT guy in the end.
DocProc
- 01 Nov 2006 11:57
- 5175 of 11003
My local 'Techies' (Computer Doctors), wot I use from time to time when the going gets a bit rough, send out a Newsletter to me every so often.
It is accessible online and has lots of good stuff, including a lot of recommended and free software downloads - and I would trust their site, which you can access from the Newsletter, as an excellent place to download them from, too.
Interestingly, they recommend 'KeConnect' as a broadband supplier and I must say, KeConnect do seem to check out very well in the ADSL comparisons for 'speed, reliability and customer service'.
You can read the Newsletter here:
http://www.computerdoctors.uk.net:80/newsletter/autumn/aut2006.htm
Bolshi
- 02 Nov 2006 15:36
- 5176 of 11003
A query on downloading drivers please chaps.
I have 2 driver updates that I want to do. They are for my Nvidia card and my monitor. I worry that I will have to delete the old drivers first before uploading my new ones.
I could just envisage deleting the old drivers and pzzssttt (technical expression) - no display.
S**t creek without a paddle springs to mind.
Haystack
- 02 Nov 2006 15:55
- 5177 of 11003
Even without the proper drivers the display usually works with reduced festures such as resolution and numbers of colours using the default Windows generic driver.
Control panel
systems
device manager
display adapters
double click on your graphics adapter
driver
update driver
You will notice that there is also a button that says 'Roll back driver' which you can use if you are not happy with the new driver.
Bolshi
- 02 Nov 2006 16:07
- 5178 of 11003
Thanks Haystack. I really didn't know about that facility! Easy peasy!
I've been trying to make things more complicated than I should.
Thx again.
foale
- 05 Nov 2006 22:05
- 5179 of 11003
turned on the PC yesterday..and just got the sound after a 5-10 seconds "beep beep" Fan started up and it whirred a bit ...then printed
Low battery something ot other...I could still do F2 to get into the utility area thing...but could get no further
Managed to boot up of the CD diagnostics disc after amending the boot sequence ..and now dare not turn it off..
any idea what the problem might have been?
All ok now...HD fine atm...
foale
- 06 Nov 2006 10:22
- 5181 of 11003
thast sound right...I will get on to that...
thanks optimist...
ThePublisher
- 09 Nov 2006 08:14
- 5182 of 11003
Last night I attempted to connect an HP 2570 printer to my Win XP laptop. For reasons I won't bore you with I wanted to make the connection to the ethernet socket on the printer instead of the USB.
At a later stage I will be getting a hub so that my wife can share the printer if she ever gets round to having her own laptop.
In the meantime, in the absence of a hub, I am simply plugging the ethernet cable directly into my laptop.
I had problems (about which more later maybe) but my first question is as to whether I can go straight into the laptop or whether a hub is essential?
TP
ThePublisher
- 09 Nov 2006 09:49
- 5184 of 11003
Optimist,
I just grabbed what looked like an ethernet cable from a shelf.
How could I tell whether it was a crossover cable or not?
Maybe the answer is to pop up the Tott Ct Rd and buy a crossover adaptor.
TP
ThePublisher
- 09 Nov 2006 10:18
- 5186 of 11003
Thanks Optimist,
I did get as far as getting the printer to do a test page from the laptop so my link may not be too wrong and the cable may not be the fault.
However, trying to print a page from Word totally failed.
I also got yellow exclamation marks against that connection and my WiFi connection in that panel at the bottom right of my screen.
And, my bigger worry, it was a struggle to get the laptop to turn off - which I was told is sometimes caused when it struggles to turn off network links that are not correct.
I'll get an adaptor and another standard cable anyway. They'll not cost much and surely come in handy sometime.
TP