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Info required for report to FSA re Stanelco (SEO)     

greekman - 07 Jun 2007 07:28

Please post Date, Time, Heading of any news released in any official format by Stanelco than you deem relevant to above proposed report.

Thanks in anticipation.

Greekman.

greekman - 09 Jul 2007 10:16 - 52 of 101

Cynic,

When I invest, I look at the odds, be it on the stock market or race course.
It is when the odds become loaded against me (bending/breaking the rules), I become annoyed. I agree that investing is a form of gambling. One of my portfolio's is a high risk portfolio (SEO are in that portfolio). I except that some companies in this portfolio will fail for many reasons, bad management being one of them. Annoying as this might be, I have to accept it. But rules are there to protect, investors, companies and the market as a whole. I am not so naive that I invest on the premise that these rules are always adhered to but I expect certain parameters not to be crossed. Feeling Stanelco have stepped over the line, was the deciding factor, re the complaint.
Please don't take offense, as I do appreciate all sides of the augment, but feel I have covered most in my previous posts. So please read my previous comments on this thread prior to posting as I do not wish to repeat detail.
If you do read the full flow, I am quite happy to discuss anything not covered.

cynic - 09 Jul 2007 10:32 - 53 of 101

i never take offense even with the not-at-all-lamented-and-now-sent-to-the-gallows-tcdmt, who reckoned my daughter was fair target for obscene abuse!

by the looks of it, i am just more pragmatic than you, so just avoid companies whose management looks to have more than a little to be desired - e.g. RPT ..... to my amazement, i see that stinker has now gone up 4-fold in the last year

oblomov - 09 Jul 2007 10:34 - 54 of 101


If the post on ii contains genuine info then I would have thought it puts the Howard White reign into perspective and our suspicions could be well founded.

cynic - you're last post amazes me! You're presumably just trying to wind us up. What you're saying is that nothing should be done about a suspected crime (and I'm not suggesting we are talking 'crime' in SEO's case) because there are other crimes being committed and that makes it OK in some way.

Why investigate a murder in Manchester because there's been one in Liverpool and the murderers got away with it there!


Lets just do away with the Police and legal system then and let anarchy replace it - thats what you're saying.

You cant be that big a berk - time to stop digging!


cynic - 09 Jul 2007 10:40 - 55 of 101

oblomov ..... crime? ....... if so, then SFO should be contacted ..... if you and greekman are actually right in this instance, then no doubt appropriate action will be taken ..... however 99/100 is just inept management or communication, and very very occasionally, the management has saild close or too close to the wind ...... if the evidence against Mr Timmis (RPT) did not stack up to justify prosection, and clearly it did not, then the odds are longer than 1 to 1p that there is nothing to hang the management of SEO, galling as that might be for you guys.

greekman - 09 Jul 2007 10:50 - 56 of 101

Please lets keep the peace. Report now on way to the LSE, so will not post again till reply received, or specific questions asked, that have not been answered before.

oblomov - 09 Jul 2007 11:01 - 57 of 101


cynic,

you seem to have a problem with reading - from my post to which you refer:-

'(and I'm not suggesting we are talking 'crime' in SEO's case)'

cynic - 09 Jul 2007 11:03 - 58 of 101

not shouting at anyone ..... though oblomov now denies he was talking of crime, it certainly read otherwise .... merely stating what i think is the almost inevitable outcome - i.e. if you are lucky, some soothing noises but nothing else ..... i shall watch with great interest

oblomov - 09 Jul 2007 12:10 - 59 of 101

cynic,

Are you a child?

My post was answering yours in which you said 'i don't think the markets are any more crooked than say horse or dog racing, and shares are merely another form of gambling '

Crooked = crime in my book - its you who bought up crime and my post relates to that point - in general, not related to SEO as I clearly said with '(and I'm not suggesting we are talking 'crime' in SEO's case)'.

cynic - 09 Jul 2007 15:44 - 60 of 101

can't be arsed to argue semantics with you ...... i shall just wait and watch with interest as to whether the authorities have the remotest interest in taking any action at all on SEO .... my guess is that your real soreness is because you are mug enough to be still a holder

oblomov - 09 Jul 2007 16:30 - 61 of 101


Cynic - I'm not sore and there are no semantics involved. You're just being a prat, thats all, and looking for an argument.

cynic - 09 Jul 2007 16:35 - 62 of 101

fine by me if that's your view; personally i have no more view of you than the man on the moon ..... i shall scarcely lose sleep

keep holding them SEO .... you are sure to make your fortune!

greekman - 09 Jul 2007 16:43 - 63 of 101

Please people, this thread is pointless if things become personal.
My reason for creating this thread was to glean information and help re my complaint. My intention is not to take sides in any debate re hold, sell or buy this share. The SEO thread is more relative to that. It matters not to me what people think re this share. The input up to now has been very helpful in this fact, don't lets allow it to drift to the level seen on other threads/sites.
Not taking sides.

cynic - 09 Jul 2007 16:51 - 64 of 101

quite right .... smacked wrist accepted! .... lol!

oblomov - 09 Jul 2007 17:23 - 65 of 101

cynic - I dont need SEO to make my fortune - like many other posters here I've already made it. Stop being silly now.

When people make silly comments after the hours greek put in on this (and myself too) and say they haven't actually been following things it's pretty difficult not to get personal!

If you'd written a book and a reviewer said it was rubbish but he hadn't read it, what can you say?

lol - time to take a walk

greekman - 19 Jul 2007 18:07 - 66 of 101

Update.

Prior to posting the complaint I contacted the LSE and FULLY explained the basis of the complaint and the company involved. They did not ask where it was listed.
I stated that I was requesting their advice as to whom the complaint should be forwarded to. I received an E-Mail directing me to forward the complaint to the following address.

Regulatory Complains
Trading Services
London Stock Exchange
10 Paternoster Square
London EC4M 7LS.

Today I received a reply stating, from the above dept..... Thank you for etc, etc. Based on the information you provided it appears to be a matter more appropriately to be dealt with by the UK Listing Authority (UKLA) who as you will be aware, monitor releases of information in relation to Main Market companies such as Stanelco plc.

They have supplied an address for the above which is part of the FSA, which is the department I initially thought I needed to contact, but the LSE advised me otherwise.

So I now have to re submit the complaint and corresponding evidence. (Will do so this Saturday).

If the LSE when contacted give the wrong department initially, it does not fill one with confidence.

But I will not give up yet.

I will keep everyone posted.

oblomov - 19 Jul 2007 19:12 - 67 of 101


Thanks Greek.

kimoldfield - 19 Jul 2007 19:33 - 68 of 101

Hmmm, yes thanks Greek,................LSE, is that an abbreviation of Let Stanelco Exaggerate?

greekman - 20 Jul 2007 07:51 - 69 of 101

Possibly. In my last job the CPS was referred to as The Criminal Protection Society.
(See the Talk To Yourself Thread).

explosive - 20 Jul 2007 12:39 - 70 of 101

Just noticed this thread, well done Greek, in my view if you don't ask you won't get! Maybe also send a copy of the letter to the top corporate holders, you never know who may be willing to add support and weight.

greekman - 20 Jul 2007 13:32 - 71 of 101

Hi Explosive,

Thanks. I believe the corporate holders would be reluctant to back a complaint at this stage, as it would be an admission that they had got it wrong. My feeling is they will wait till the final moment (a possible suspension of dealings) before they act. That is not to say they will still be holders by then.
I am not saying this will happen but you never know.
All IMHO of course.
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