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5000 where should i invest it???? I need to make money short term.     

thesaurus - 13 Mar 2004 13:24

little woman - 19 Mar 2004 15:57 - 52 of 130

Amazing, it's only been 12 months not 18 month and the portfolio is 40% higher than the cash added to the account (received a few dividends too!) Not bad for a very conservative portfolio based partly on high dividend return.

Maggot - 19 Mar 2004 18:02 - 53 of 130

thesaurus. The answer to your last question about buying first thing in the morning at the previous day's (lower) closing price (or somewhere near it) is that you can't. If you could everyone would do it. However you can frequently buy early (after the auction finishes at 8 am) and take a chance on it rising more during the morning. Not everyone is able to ring their broker up at 7.45 am and leave instructions to buy first thing - some can't buy until they get to work; even more don't know the price has risen until they get home that night -then there's possibly another rise next day.

Believe me there are no easy short-cuts. As Zarif says you can't make an omlette without breaking eggs. You've got to take a chance.

optomistic - 20 Mar 2004 13:35 - 54 of 130

thesaurus
I have been reading this thread out of general interest and I have come to the conclusion that it must be a bit of a wind up.
Buying today at yesterdays prices!!! Wouldnt we all be just a little bit richer if we could. It would be something like filling the football coupons in after the matches had finished.
If you are serious I respectfully suggest that you should put your money in the bank, if not its been quite a good laugh.
optomistic

38 - 20 Mar 2004 18:12 - 55 of 130

Could be a wind up.

Never in the field of investment management has so much advice been offered by so many for so little money. (Not Churchill) However, It's now time to sh@t or get off the pot. (Stormin Norm') So, Accept the challenge, and feel the exhileration of victory. (Patton) All I can promise you is Blood Sweat Toil and Tears. (Definitely Churchill) Drop me a line and I'll make arrangements to take custody of your 5k and buy you some stock. (38) I'm sorry this letter is so long, I didn't have time to make it shorter. (Wilde)

Love

38

Edit: The Bank and the 3.40 at newmarket are still my prefered options




namreh3 - 20 Mar 2004 18:42 - 56 of 130

Apologies "38" but I believe I have first dibs on the 5k. PS- are we talking H.Norman Schwartzkopf JUNIOR or SENIOR?

bonn1e - 20 Mar 2004 19:30 - 57 of 130

38-20!!!! It's your fault. You made me fall off my chair and hurt my hand. Now, my ribs are moving in tune with the throb.

38 - 20 Mar 2004 23:47 - 58 of 130

Namreh, you take 2 1/2 and I'll take 2 1/2. Done ?

bonn1e, Que ?

thesaurus - 21 Mar 2004 12:09 - 59 of 130

Jokes at my expense, come on thats just not playing fair.

Look I am at Uni, my mates are all out getting drunk most nights. I would rather use my student loan to create wealth not demolish it. So is this a joke, if it was it would not be a very good one.

I just needed advice and to be fair i am touched that so many people have. If you learn from other peoples mistakes then you should be ok

Thesaurus

chartist2004 - 21 Mar 2004 13:00 - 60 of 130

Thesaurus - Take a look at http://www.investtech 'register for free' then look at thier comments on various company/charts click on 'Trends' many rising stocks there, check our any other info you require on Money AM. I like the look of Stream Grp (SEA) up over 1500% since June 03 results were 16-02-04 take a look, and no I don't hold any yet! Don't but all your 5k into one 'golden egg' make your dosh slowly not loose it fast..! All IMHO/DYOR.
Hope this helps
Mike....

Kayak - 21 Mar 2004 23:41 - 61 of 130

Thesaurus, the thing is that you will not be creating wealth consistently at first. You may well be lucky and make money to start with, but you will eventually give it back and more. The vast majority of traders who make money consistently (and it is said that only 10% of so of traders make money) only started being successful after blowing the whole of their pot at least once if not two or three times. Those successful traders are the ones who persisted. So bear that in mind when you come to decide whether your student loan, funded with the money I pay to the Inland Revenue, is better spent on drinking or trading :-)

MightyMicro - 21 Mar 2004 23:55 - 62 of 130

Thesaurus: a millionaire friend of mine once told me "there's no such thing as easy money". Another such said "the first million is the hardest".

These statements appear to be true, from my experience. Personally, I'm still working on the first million.

Good luck with your life.

amberjane - 22 Mar 2004 00:20 - 63 of 130

Yes but who said this is 'easy money' anyway even if you do gain? Every day just before you click on your portfolio you lose a few more minutes of your life, with fingers, toes & anything else you can cross, crossed!

ajren - 22 Mar 2004 10:46 - 64 of 130

Millwall were a couple of weeks ago as 5,000 would have got one millions of shares.Perhaps it still is.Any snooker players amongst us knows the good
player never scorns the lowly yellow.
rgds aj

crystalclear - 01 May 2004 20:28 - 65 of 130

If you want the benefit of years of research for free, Antonov PLC's transmissions (gearboxes) will be going into production later this year. Antonov have found a partner and should be releasing details sometime who their business partner is. They have a 6-speed design which should be in production in 2005. If you are capable of holding for a long period of time this should be a one way ticket, even if its a rough ride.

But don't put all your eggs in one basket, in case I am wrong ;-)
And don't risk more than you can afford to lose!

http://www.schmider-investments.de/frametext/interviews/frame20.htm

Put that through babelfish and you'll have a good overview of the company.

LEEWINK - 02 May 2004 15:31 - 66 of 130

I'll tell ya where to put 5k, the same place I put my investment, NML, a great return for ya dosh, upside potential is massive, I reckon you could 4 fold minimal ya money there too within the year and well, after that the sky and on, what bank's gonna give ya 400% interest in ya first year !!!

Write this one down as were expecting news now which was promised end of april, a new mine start for diamonds, after the initial 2 months operation it will double the mine production, giving over 1 million dollars a month income (20,000 carats a month) , for over 6 years !!!

Trading has got healthy now, and over the next week or couple should see the upside start, watch this as early as THIS tuesday morning, its gettin hot.

Upto you, but i'd guess minimal 30p by year end, very conservative, DYOH+R and be sure before entering.

AGAIN WRITE IT DOWN, DON'T MISS OUT, THIS ONE'S BIG TILL 2010 AT LEAST, AND HERE'S YOUR ENTRY LEVEL.

Gausie - 02 May 2004 15:51 - 67 of 130

Be especially wary of posts such as the one preceeding this.

LEEWINK - 02 May 2004 16:04 - 68 of 130

we'll see

superrod - 02 May 2004 16:23 - 69 of 130

thesaurus

i suggest you listen to peeps like gausie. its because of the likes of him im still here after nearly 10 years.

my suggestion would be to read your thread header again and imagine someone else had written it. what would you think?

if there was anywhere anyone could put 5k ( in the market ) and get a guaranteed return, dont you think we would all be doing it?

you are pitting your wits against everyone else who trades, 99% of which are more savvy than you. sure, we can all hit a knutsford occassionally ( 9p to nearly 2 in a couple of hours if memory serves ) but its far more likely ( 100% id say ) that you will lose money trying to make a short term gain with no experience. absolutely no offence intended.......ANYONE will try to shaft you to make money in this game.

there is one infallible ( almost ) bb rule.

NEVER EVER believe anything you read on a bb ( this advice excluded )

good luck


ps if you DO hit the winning formula, be sure to let me know

jj50 - 02 May 2004 16:42 - 70 of 130

I agree with the cautious approach - something like ING direct which gives instant access to your money and will pay 4.5%. Meanwhile set up a virtual portfolio with something like www.msn.co.uk then go to My Money and set up a portfolio so that you can see how it does. This gives you clear info on how much you would have gained/lost. There are also good clear charts (intraday, week, month, yr, 5yr) free for each stock on www.comdirect.co.uk, along with analysts information - all of which is useful. I don't think it worth buying individual shares without investing 700 because of transaction/stamp duty costs. Crocs site is excellent as mentioned before but I also like Citywire, although I subscribe for the full service and that is 98 or thereabouts per year. Good luck.

kandrews250 - 02 May 2004 17:10 - 71 of 130

Im with the general opinion, listen to the older hands. While 5k is alot of money it is not that much if you are trying to buy mid cap shares and the costs will soon wipe out the profits, that means as with most the aim shares look more attractive. If you get them right you clean up but mostly you have to keep money in for along time before they move (depending on what profit you want and what your timeline for return is ). spreadbetting is fine but trade for a good while till you get it right more times than wrong and aim for shares which have a least twice the upside to downside ( short or long ). Also look at the general market if it is a bear market week beware of being to bullish. When I started spreadbetting I made the mistake of falling for the index trap, looks easy to make a lot but the spreads are against you and I learnt the hard way. Went back to good old shares. Of course all IMO and all the best and lol
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