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Scrip

you had a look at tonights footie - looks tricky though a few of the away teams appear reasonable value (Juventus, Werder Bremen)

An interesting article on Barney Curley not managing to fully get on his gamble!!

Curley storms out of Galway after barney with a bookie

by Pat Keane, Galway
BARNEY CURLEY, a man who is never far from controversy, lashed out at the Sean Graham bookmaking firm in Galway yesterday , after his Magic Combination had won the Smithwicks Handicap. Magic Combination was backed from 11 4 to 15 8, much shorter in places, right at the death and he landed the gamble without coming off the bridle, in the hands of Jamie Spencer. Afterwards, Curley made a claim, not denied by the bookmakers, that one of the people operating for him had asked Grahams for 9 4 to 20,000. The Grahams refused the bet, offering just 1,000 at starting price.Curley said: This is my last day having anything to do with Irish racing. I will not be back with horses, unless things change dramatically.To ask for a bet of 20,000 at 9 4 and be offered 1,000 at SP is daylight robbery. These are people who are offering early morning prices, they wouldnt lay two bananas to a banana.I hope Irish racing isnt going the same way as English racing. What you need in this country is a ring inspector.This is supposed to be a big betting meeting. The bookmakers held 1.7m here yesterday, this is ridiculous.I do not talk to the English press, I despise them. I hope you people arent in anybodys pockets.I am packing up now and going home. I was going to run Mystic Ridge at Roscommon next Tuesday. Can you imagine what it will be like in Roscommon? Kiss me ass they (the bookmakers) will tell me.Despite Curleys ferocious outburst, there is little doubt he left Galway a far richer man than when he came in the gate earlier in the day. The estimates last night were that he took at least 100,000 out of the ring.Brian Graham, however, mounted a staunch defence of his firms behaviour. He said: I have two things to say. I was asked for that particular bet by a fellow bookmaker.He would not lay me that sort of bet and, as far as I am concerned, he wasnt entitled to ask me to lay 45,000 to 20,000.Secondly, Barney Curley has the choice to pick and choose when he wants to back Magic Combination.But I can pick and choose when I want to lay it.The last three times that horse has run on the flat in England, there wasnt a tenner for it. He must think I am stupid.

Steve, would be careful with Werder Bremen, they struggled in a recent game in Cyprus, winning only 1-0 at the death with a penalty. FWIW

pth

I though the horses were hard today. Maybe I was just having an off day?

Going to have a look at the footy in a minute.

Managed to turn a profit on the nags today, although far from satisfactory. After getting caught out by Fulham last night and Charlton's early second half equaliser, think I might wait and see how the games go before wading in.

pth

Arsenal started brightly but now Reyes looks injured - taken 3 heavy fouls in first 10 mins - will we see Henry earlier than expected?

Currently no position on any games, Barca and Bayern looked to have started well but no goals in any of the 8 games yet

Great to see Henry back - hope he is fit and ready to return

Not certain who does and doesn't need to win so reluctant at the moment to go in heavy.

Will have to do my sums.

On the basis of only 2 games played so far everyone needs to win, though i agree some more than others

have united started as poorly as the drift in their price implies?

Welcome back Thierry !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

After 30 mins only 1 goal in 8 games - the under 2.5 backers will be happy

Bayern 1-0 vs Juve - keepers had a shocker

Bayern 2-0 up - glad i left Juve alone!!!

trying a differnt stratgegy this evening, so laid Juve at the start, rather than lumping in on the teams I 'think' will win. Green on the bayern match now and will look for further trading opportunities during the second half of this one and the others.

Stand out value out half time appears to be Barca - sure to get a rocket at half time and now trading at 2.16. Tempted to have a few quid on Lille at 10.0. If cant find any value will look to scalp the Arsenal game

Anyone else trading?

PTH

well done on the Juve game - did you lay Juve expecting Munich to win or because you thought it would be tight and likely to stay 0-0 for a while - interested to know your reasoning as Juve looked good value to me but WFDIK

Steve

Didnt expect Juve to win, so went with the draw or Bayern win. Must say I didn't expect Bayern to score twice so quickly, but hey, who cares? (Juve, i suppose!)

Looking to scalp for the rest of the evening on Arsenal and bayern and anyone alse who manages to score a goal.

Agree Barca look good value, but.......

Scholes sent off.

Bremen 1-0 up - doh!

How late was scholes?

Sorry Steve
Should have kept my bremen thoughts to myself