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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

goldfinger - 05 Dec 2014 19:23 - 52312 of 81564

LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

Hays Ill save that to word.

goldfinger - 05 Dec 2014 19:24 - 52313 of 81564

Ohhhhhhhhh and by the way hes already appeared in court.

cynic - 05 Dec 2014 20:08 - 52314 of 81564

hays - don't confuse common parlance and grammatical correctness, just as different to is horribly wrong (it is different from) yet even to be heard on bbc news

MaxK - 05 Dec 2014 20:32 - 52315 of 81564

Millibandus and nu Lab are toast!



Stamp duty changes boost housing market and push up prices


Buyers spend their savings making higher offers while estate agents see sales rise the morning after autumn statement


Hilary Osborne

Friday 5 December 2014 19.37 GMT



The traditional pre-Christmas lull in the housing market came to an abrupt end last week when the chancellor slashed stamp duty for all properties costing up to £937,000.

Estate agents reported renewed interest from buyers, with some putting their savings in to higher offers for homes. They predicted that the increased demand, together with a cash injection into the market, would lead to higher prices in the months ahead.

The chancellor’s announcement that the “slab structure” on the homebuyer’s tax would be scrapped and replaced with a progressive system had an immediate impact on the market, agents said, as would-be buyers realised they could increase their budgets.

The UK’s largest independent agency, Haart, said it had seen a 15% increase in inquiries on Thursday morning and a flurry of offers by clients who found they had more money to spend.

Russell Jervis, Haart’s managing director, said: “The change has generated new sales – there were people who suddenly could increase their offer and several new sales were agreed straight away.”

In north London Charlie Perdios, managing director of Anthony Pepe, an estate agency, said he had also been contacted by buyers who were willing to pay more. “There were a few deals where the buyers and sellers were about £5,000 to £10,000 apart; now the buyers are maybe saving £5,000, those deals can be resurrected.”

He added: “If people feel that they’ve got a few more thousand to spend, that will filter through to house prices.” Haart had been predicting a lull in activity in the runup to the general election but Jervis said branches are “optimistic about the start of 2015. I think we will continue to see growth in house prices.”



http://www.theguardian.com/money/2014/dec/05/stamp-duty-changes-housing-market

Haystack - 05 Dec 2014 21:01 - 52316 of 81564

"well hays, it's assuredly an historical novel, so why would an high tea be a grammatical inexactitude, for both have aspirated aitches?"

No. It is a historical novel unless you drop the aitch. The an version is common usage in speech but bad grammar. I was commenting on a written version which which was wrong.

Haystack - 05 Dec 2014 21:57 - 52317 of 81564

Haystack - 05 Dec 2014 22:00 - 52318 of 81564

http://order-order.com/2014/12/05/official-no-one-cares-about-cameronmustgo/

Official: No One Cares About #CameronMustGo

The less reality-based elements of the loony left are still banging on at the ‘biased’ media failing to cover a hashtag calling for the PM to step down. Today’s Populus poll offers a more likely reason: no one cares. Not one person in the real world thought it was a story this week:

Stan - 05 Dec 2014 22:05 - 52319 of 81564

Good night H/S.. and keep on dreaming.

MaxK - 05 Dec 2014 23:40 - 52320 of 81564

Indeed.

cynic - 06 Dec 2014 08:34 - 52321 of 81564

hey ho hays .... go back to school and ask your english teacher who just may have had a proper education and understands the difference between grammatical correctness and common parlance as clearly you do not

(s)he'll probably be able to explain to you that the sad decline of the adverb in favour of the incorrect usage of an adjective-as-adverb is horribly wrong too even if used by most plebs! ..... eg in answer to, "how are you feeling today?" the response should never ever be, "i'm good thanks" but "i'm well thank-you" ..... and nor can you get off of a bus!!

MaxK - 06 Dec 2014 10:00 - 52322 of 81564


Pournelle’s “Iron Law of Bureaucracy” explains a lot about today’s sclerotic bureaucratic Britain

By David Craig, on December 6th, 2014


I just came across something called Pournelle’s Iron Law of Bureaucracy. Apologies if you already knew about it.

This Law states that in any bureaucratic organisation there will be two main kinds of people:

1. First, there will be those who are devoted to the goals of the organisation. Examples are dedicated classroom teachers, many of the engineers, launch technicians and scientists at NASA, some doctors and nurses in the NHS, many charity workers, a few (very few) BBC reporters, front-line soldiers in Afghanistan and so on.

2. Secondly, there will be those dedicated to the organisation itself and more specifically to their own careers, self-importance and well-being in that organisation. Examples are many of the administrators in the education system, many teachers’ union officials, much of the NASA headquarters staff, most of the NHS’s 40,000 overpaid, over-pensioned managers, council bosses increasing their own salaries and allowances while firing lower-level staff, the almost 100 BBC managers who earn more than the Prime Minister, the military bosses who looked after their own careers and got their peerages while knowingly and cynically sending our troops without proper equipment to be slaughtered in Afghanistan, thousands of over-paid, over-pensioned charity bosses and 99% of our lying, cheating expenses-thieving MPs and Peers.

The Iron Law states that in every case the second group – those dedicated to promoting their organisation’s growth and power and also advancing their own lousy careers within the organisation – will gain and keep control of the organisation. This second group will thus write the rules, control the strategy and decide promotions within the organisation favouring those like themselves to the detriment of those genuinely trying to provide a front-line service.

This is why most bureaucratic and public-sector organisations will continue to grow their scope, size, expenditure and salaries and perks of their managers and free-riders while their level of service declines and regardless of the need, if any, for their services






More: http://www.snouts-in-the-trough.com/archives/11538

goldfinger - 06 Dec 2014 11:26 - 52323 of 81564

No one cares Camoronmustgo........whos Hays trying to kid again.

Still trending after 2 weeks, easily a world record.....

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Haystack - 06 Dec 2014 11:31 - 52324 of 81564

Common parlance generally applies to spoken English. Written English has higher standards applied to it.

Fred1new - 06 Dec 2014 11:35 - 52325 of 81564


Can't make out whether it is Haze or Osborne!

Fred1new - 06 Dec 2014 11:41 - 52326 of 81564

Vote tory and get this::


Who has been in power for four and half year of economic destruction.

When did Maggie and this brand of economics destroyed the manufacturing base of the economy in favour for bankers and financial services.

Who was in it "altogether" with their snouts in pig troughs!

Who is in control for another 5 months, the offspring of the Maggie,


doodlebug4 - 06 Dec 2014 11:57 - 52327 of 81564

Fred, it's a lovely sunny morning - why don't you go out for a walk, it just might help to clear your head a bit!

Stan - 06 Dec 2014 11:58 - 52328 of 81564

Blimey you can talk DB.

goldfinger - 06 Dec 2014 12:06 - 52329 of 81564

Work capability assessor asked why depressed claimant had not committed suicide06/12/2014

zIDSmurderer.jpg?resize=529%2C529An ESA claimant has explained how an Atos work capability assessor asked her why she had not yet killed herself, after she admitted suffering with depression.

Abi Fallows described the interview on the I bet I can find a million people who DON’T want David Cameron as our PM Facebook group after reading Vox Political‘s article on the hidden cost of the Coalition Government’s benefits policy.

“At my last Atos ‘assessment’, when mentioning depression, the ‘assessor’ asked me why I hadn’t killed myself yet,” she told astonished members of the Facebook group.

She said the assessors’ attitude seemed to be that she couldn’t be depressed if she had not already killed herself: “I’ve noticed a few people, over the last year or so, going to Atos with depression are being asked that same question.

“I tried signing on for Jobseekers [Allowance], but thanks to the wonderful ‘Y’, who I saw, she said I was no way fit to work under any circumstances because I’d always be set up to fail.

“I had a doctor’s appointment this morning (December 4) and I told my doc. It’s the first time I’ve ever heard a doctor swear like that. The doctor swearing in response – a rather softly spoken voice – said, and I quote: ‘Holy shiiiiiiiit!'”

But it seems the scandalised claimant is set to have the last word because – unknown to her assessor – she recorded the entire incident.

“I shall hold my hands up and admit I did record it without their knowledge because sometimes my memory gets fragmented during these ‘assessments’ – it takes me a while to comprehend what’s happened,” she explained.

“I went to that assessment armed to the teeth with as much stuff as I could take with me. It’s not my fault that the evidence I needed didn’t arrive until after my assessment – as is the case with many others.

“[It is] almost like Atos want you to be there for your assessment as helpless as possible so they can fail you quicker – and if that behaviour can be proved, a lot more cases could be overturned.

“I’ve recorded two out of three assessments that I’ve had in recent years – and no doubt I shall continue to record them and expose them for the abject failures that they are. In fact, if we all do that, then there’s no way ever that they’d be able to get away with things. It’s the simplest and best form of direct action.

“For some of us, it’s the only action we’ve got left to take.”

She added that she had been “instructed” to email her MP. “That email went out at the end of last week and I’m sitting here waiting to get an answer – if not, I know the time and date of her next surgery and will attend that.”

In conclusion, she said: “Yeah – I’m sick of being sick.

“And I’m sick of sick-thinking people, sickly requesting that we should all pretty much piss off and die.”

doodlebug4 - 06 Dec 2014 12:12 - 52330 of 81564

I've just had a lovely walk with my two dogs Stan, very enjoyable!

goldfinger - 06 Dec 2014 12:13 - 52331 of 81564

Child abuse victims blast Theresa May for “lack of transparency” and “manipulations” 5/06/2014

Survivors of institutional child abuse have written an extraordinary letter to the Home Secretary Theresa May telling her the government’s official inquiry is “not fit for purpose” and they will no longer cooperate with it.

In the unprecedented letter, child abuse survivors and professionals accuse Theresa May’s Home Office of “obfuscation“, “lack of transparency” and “manipulations“:

Rt Hon Theresa May MP, Home Secretary, 2 Marsham Street, London SW1P 4DF

Dear Theresa May
As survivors and associated professionals, we were very much hoping to take up the invitations to engage with your Ministerial Officers to discuss the Child Sex Abuse Inquiry but we regret to say we have to decline. We, alongside many survivors, have made numerous representations to you regarding our view that the Inquiry as it stands is not fit for purpose. Its Terms of Reference (ToR) are inadequate for delivering the original declared intentions of the inquiry, namely to investigate government and establishment cover ups of paedophiles in their ranks and aiding bringing the perpetrators to justice.
Secondly, both your appointees to Head the Inquiry Panel have had to be forced out by survivors because of obvious conflicts of interest, and you have failed to address similar issues regarding other Panel appointees.
Thirdly, that the cut-off date for the Inquiry investigations was set at 1970 is highly disturbing given that the 1969 Children’s Act transferred Home Office run youth establishments, from which thousands of abuse allegations eventually emerged. It highlights the lack of transparency regarding the Home Office’s dealings with the Inquiry, not to mention the apparent obfuscations and manipulations in the defence of the appointment of Fiona Woolf. As a result, the Home Office seems to be running the Inquiry to meet others’ needs rather than those of survivors and the public.
We therefore have little option but to end engagement with the Inquiry and call on other survivors, whistleblowers, associated professionals and agencies to follow suit until, as Home Secretary, you:
• announce the scrapping of the current panel and its replacement on a transparent basis
• declare a statutory inquiry
• announce that the TOR will focus on: 1) Organised & Institutional Abuse – hearing evidence from survivors of such abuse 2) Extending the cut-off date to 1945 and linking with Inquiries in other parts of the UK 3) Setting up a dedicated police team at the National Crime Agency to take evidence alongside the inquiry to investigate and prosecute offenders 4) Holding those that have failed in their professional duty or covered up allegations or been obstructive to account.

Yours faithfully
Andy Kershaw and Tony Martin (Survivors of Forde Park)
Bobby Martin, Gang Intervention Advisor & Islington Care Home Survivor
Luke Payne, Child Trafficking Survivor.
Nigel O’Mara, Former Survivors’ Helpline Counsellor/ Public Relations Officer
Caroline Carnot, Author & Founding Executive Care Leavers Association
Peter McKelvie, Whistleblower and former child protection worker
Dr Liz Davies, Reader in Child Protection, London Metropolitan University
Ruth Stark MBE, President International Federation of Social Workers
Ann Davis, Emeritus Professor of Social Work and Mental Health, University of Birmingham
Phil Frampton (Founding Chair, Care Leavers Association 2000-04)
Stephen Morris, Church of England Children’s Society Careleaver
Brian Douieb, Former Leaving Care Social Work Manager
Les Huckfield MP for Nuneaton 1967-83. MEP for Merseyside East 1984-89
Dr Kenneth McIntyre, CPsychol, AFBPsS
Dr Paul Redgrave, Director of Public Health, Barnsley 2004-09
Ed Nixon, Chief Executive, Family Care Associates
Anne Southworth, Senior National Education Specialist (Audit Commission) – Retired
Dr Rachel Chapple, Social Anthropologist, Founder, Real Stories Gallery Foundation
Councillor Ann Kerrigan
Ann Mallaby, Justice Campaigner
Andrea Enisuoh, Community Organiser, Hackney Unites
Miriam Day, Writer and survivor of childhood sexual abuse
Robert Chewter, Campaigner



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