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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

MaxK - 05 Dec 2014 23:40 - 52320 of 81564

Indeed.

cynic - 06 Dec 2014 08:34 - 52321 of 81564

hey ho hays .... go back to school and ask your english teacher who just may have had a proper education and understands the difference between grammatical correctness and common parlance as clearly you do not

(s)he'll probably be able to explain to you that the sad decline of the adverb in favour of the incorrect usage of an adjective-as-adverb is horribly wrong too even if used by most plebs! ..... eg in answer to, "how are you feeling today?" the response should never ever be, "i'm good thanks" but "i'm well thank-you" ..... and nor can you get off of a bus!!

MaxK - 06 Dec 2014 10:00 - 52322 of 81564


Pournelle’s “Iron Law of Bureaucracy” explains a lot about today’s sclerotic bureaucratic Britain

By David Craig, on December 6th, 2014


I just came across something called Pournelle’s Iron Law of Bureaucracy. Apologies if you already knew about it.

This Law states that in any bureaucratic organisation there will be two main kinds of people:

1. First, there will be those who are devoted to the goals of the organisation. Examples are dedicated classroom teachers, many of the engineers, launch technicians and scientists at NASA, some doctors and nurses in the NHS, many charity workers, a few (very few) BBC reporters, front-line soldiers in Afghanistan and so on.

2. Secondly, there will be those dedicated to the organisation itself and more specifically to their own careers, self-importance and well-being in that organisation. Examples are many of the administrators in the education system, many teachers’ union officials, much of the NASA headquarters staff, most of the NHS’s 40,000 overpaid, over-pensioned managers, council bosses increasing their own salaries and allowances while firing lower-level staff, the almost 100 BBC managers who earn more than the Prime Minister, the military bosses who looked after their own careers and got their peerages while knowingly and cynically sending our troops without proper equipment to be slaughtered in Afghanistan, thousands of over-paid, over-pensioned charity bosses and 99% of our lying, cheating expenses-thieving MPs and Peers.

The Iron Law states that in every case the second group – those dedicated to promoting their organisation’s growth and power and also advancing their own lousy careers within the organisation – will gain and keep control of the organisation. This second group will thus write the rules, control the strategy and decide promotions within the organisation favouring those like themselves to the detriment of those genuinely trying to provide a front-line service.

This is why most bureaucratic and public-sector organisations will continue to grow their scope, size, expenditure and salaries and perks of their managers and free-riders while their level of service declines and regardless of the need, if any, for their services






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goldfinger - 06 Dec 2014 11:26 - 52323 of 81564

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Haystack - 06 Dec 2014 11:31 - 52324 of 81564

Common parlance generally applies to spoken English. Written English has higher standards applied to it.

Fred1new - 06 Dec 2014 11:35 - 52325 of 81564


Can't make out whether it is Haze or Osborne!

Fred1new - 06 Dec 2014 11:41 - 52326 of 81564

Vote tory and get this::


Who has been in power for four and half year of economic destruction.

When did Maggie and this brand of economics destroyed the manufacturing base of the economy in favour for bankers and financial services.

Who was in it "altogether" with their snouts in pig troughs!

Who is in control for another 5 months, the offspring of the Maggie,


doodlebug4 - 06 Dec 2014 11:57 - 52327 of 81564

Fred, it's a lovely sunny morning - why don't you go out for a walk, it just might help to clear your head a bit!

Stan - 06 Dec 2014 11:58 - 52328 of 81564

Blimey you can talk DB.

goldfinger - 06 Dec 2014 12:06 - 52329 of 81564

Work capability assessor asked why depressed claimant had not committed suicide06/12/2014

zIDSmurderer.jpg?resize=529%2C529An ESA claimant has explained how an Atos work capability assessor asked her why she had not yet killed herself, after she admitted suffering with depression.

Abi Fallows described the interview on the I bet I can find a million people who DON’T want David Cameron as our PM Facebook group after reading Vox Political‘s article on the hidden cost of the Coalition Government’s benefits policy.

“At my last Atos ‘assessment’, when mentioning depression, the ‘assessor’ asked me why I hadn’t killed myself yet,” she told astonished members of the Facebook group.

She said the assessors’ attitude seemed to be that she couldn’t be depressed if she had not already killed herself: “I’ve noticed a few people, over the last year or so, going to Atos with depression are being asked that same question.

“I tried signing on for Jobseekers [Allowance], but thanks to the wonderful ‘Y’, who I saw, she said I was no way fit to work under any circumstances because I’d always be set up to fail.

“I had a doctor’s appointment this morning (December 4) and I told my doc. It’s the first time I’ve ever heard a doctor swear like that. The doctor swearing in response – a rather softly spoken voice – said, and I quote: ‘Holy shiiiiiiiit!'”

But it seems the scandalised claimant is set to have the last word because – unknown to her assessor – she recorded the entire incident.

“I shall hold my hands up and admit I did record it without their knowledge because sometimes my memory gets fragmented during these ‘assessments’ – it takes me a while to comprehend what’s happened,” she explained.

“I went to that assessment armed to the teeth with as much stuff as I could take with me. It’s not my fault that the evidence I needed didn’t arrive until after my assessment – as is the case with many others.

“[It is] almost like Atos want you to be there for your assessment as helpless as possible so they can fail you quicker – and if that behaviour can be proved, a lot more cases could be overturned.

“I’ve recorded two out of three assessments that I’ve had in recent years – and no doubt I shall continue to record them and expose them for the abject failures that they are. In fact, if we all do that, then there’s no way ever that they’d be able to get away with things. It’s the simplest and best form of direct action.

“For some of us, it’s the only action we’ve got left to take.”

She added that she had been “instructed” to email her MP. “That email went out at the end of last week and I’m sitting here waiting to get an answer – if not, I know the time and date of her next surgery and will attend that.”

In conclusion, she said: “Yeah – I’m sick of being sick.

“And I’m sick of sick-thinking people, sickly requesting that we should all pretty much piss off and die.”

doodlebug4 - 06 Dec 2014 12:12 - 52330 of 81564

I've just had a lovely walk with my two dogs Stan, very enjoyable!

goldfinger - 06 Dec 2014 12:13 - 52331 of 81564

Child abuse victims blast Theresa May for “lack of transparency” and “manipulations” 5/06/2014

Survivors of institutional child abuse have written an extraordinary letter to the Home Secretary Theresa May telling her the government’s official inquiry is “not fit for purpose” and they will no longer cooperate with it.

In the unprecedented letter, child abuse survivors and professionals accuse Theresa May’s Home Office of “obfuscation“, “lack of transparency” and “manipulations“:

Rt Hon Theresa May MP, Home Secretary, 2 Marsham Street, London SW1P 4DF

Dear Theresa May
As survivors and associated professionals, we were very much hoping to take up the invitations to engage with your Ministerial Officers to discuss the Child Sex Abuse Inquiry but we regret to say we have to decline. We, alongside many survivors, have made numerous representations to you regarding our view that the Inquiry as it stands is not fit for purpose. Its Terms of Reference (ToR) are inadequate for delivering the original declared intentions of the inquiry, namely to investigate government and establishment cover ups of paedophiles in their ranks and aiding bringing the perpetrators to justice.
Secondly, both your appointees to Head the Inquiry Panel have had to be forced out by survivors because of obvious conflicts of interest, and you have failed to address similar issues regarding other Panel appointees.
Thirdly, that the cut-off date for the Inquiry investigations was set at 1970 is highly disturbing given that the 1969 Children’s Act transferred Home Office run youth establishments, from which thousands of abuse allegations eventually emerged. It highlights the lack of transparency regarding the Home Office’s dealings with the Inquiry, not to mention the apparent obfuscations and manipulations in the defence of the appointment of Fiona Woolf. As a result, the Home Office seems to be running the Inquiry to meet others’ needs rather than those of survivors and the public.
We therefore have little option but to end engagement with the Inquiry and call on other survivors, whistleblowers, associated professionals and agencies to follow suit until, as Home Secretary, you:
• announce the scrapping of the current panel and its replacement on a transparent basis
• declare a statutory inquiry
• announce that the TOR will focus on: 1) Organised & Institutional Abuse – hearing evidence from survivors of such abuse 2) Extending the cut-off date to 1945 and linking with Inquiries in other parts of the UK 3) Setting up a dedicated police team at the National Crime Agency to take evidence alongside the inquiry to investigate and prosecute offenders 4) Holding those that have failed in their professional duty or covered up allegations or been obstructive to account.

Yours faithfully
Andy Kershaw and Tony Martin (Survivors of Forde Park)
Bobby Martin, Gang Intervention Advisor & Islington Care Home Survivor
Luke Payne, Child Trafficking Survivor.
Nigel O’Mara, Former Survivors’ Helpline Counsellor/ Public Relations Officer
Caroline Carnot, Author & Founding Executive Care Leavers Association
Peter McKelvie, Whistleblower and former child protection worker
Dr Liz Davies, Reader in Child Protection, London Metropolitan University
Ruth Stark MBE, President International Federation of Social Workers
Ann Davis, Emeritus Professor of Social Work and Mental Health, University of Birmingham
Phil Frampton (Founding Chair, Care Leavers Association 2000-04)
Stephen Morris, Church of England Children’s Society Careleaver
Brian Douieb, Former Leaving Care Social Work Manager
Les Huckfield MP for Nuneaton 1967-83. MEP for Merseyside East 1984-89
Dr Kenneth McIntyre, CPsychol, AFBPsS
Dr Paul Redgrave, Director of Public Health, Barnsley 2004-09
Ed Nixon, Chief Executive, Family Care Associates
Anne Southworth, Senior National Education Specialist (Audit Commission) – Retired
Dr Rachel Chapple, Social Anthropologist, Founder, Real Stories Gallery Foundation
Councillor Ann Kerrigan
Ann Mallaby, Justice Campaigner
Andrea Enisuoh, Community Organiser, Hackney Unites
Miriam Day, Writer and survivor of childhood sexual abuse
Robert Chewter, Campaigner



Fred1new - 06 Dec 2014 13:31 - 52332 of 81564

GF

“I shall hold my hands up and admit I did record it without their knowledge because sometimes my memory gets fragmented during these ‘assessments’ – it takes me a while to comprehend what’s happened,” she explained.

just like police and other services record interviews, I can not see why the interviews by the "Welfare police" or any other group should not be recorded.

In similar situations I recorded interviews and advised others to do similar.

----=-

GF,

The problem with the controlling group in the present cabinet is their form of education with narrow socio-cultural exposure and their morality being based on their experiences in those institutions.

-=-=-

DB$,

Prefer to point out the errors of your ways and point you in the right direction.

Hope the dogs got back safely!

8-)


Stan - 06 Dec 2014 13:35 - 52333 of 81564

Jolly good DB.

doodlebug4 - 06 Dec 2014 14:17 - 52334 of 81564

By TOM PETERKIN
SHADOW Scottish secretary Margaret Curran will today claim that even First Minister Nicola Sturgeon wants Labour to win the general election.


In a keynote speech, Ms Curran will argue that a vote for the SNP in May could harm ­Labour’s chances of defeating the ­Conservatives.

She will say that the SNP spent the referendum campaign urging people to vote Yes to get rid of the Tories.

With a No vote securing Scotland’s place in the United Kingdom, she will say only a Labour vote can keep David Cameron out of Downing Street.

Speaking at a summit of Scottish Labour MPs and election candidates in Perth, Ms Curran will say the key question being asked of politicians by people across Scotland is: “How are you going to make me and my family better off?”


She will say only Labour or the Conservatives will lead the next government and only Mr Cameron or Ed Miliband can become prime minister.

“That’s the choice,” she will say. “Here’s something even Nicola Sturgeon can agree with me on. The best choice for Scotland is a Labour government next year, because we’d deliver what Scotland needs and keep the Tories out of Number 10. ”

She will add: “Today, the biggest threat of continued Tory rule comes from the SNP. No matter how much Nicola Sturgeon tries to sound Labour, she can never be Labour, because she refuses to support our policies and no matter how much she says she’ll never prop up a Tory government, that’s exactly what she could end up doing next year.”

She will continue: “People across Scotland will not forgive or forget a party that gives David Cameron five more years in Downing Street. The message to people in your constituencies over the coming weeks is clear.

“If you want to secure the recovery; if you want common sense changes like an energy freeze, a 50p tax rate for the well-off and a jobs guarantee for our young people; if you want to see the back of the Tories on 7 May, vote Labour.”

An SNP spokesman said: “This is desperate stuff by Labour who – after being tied to Tories for the past two years during the referendum campaign – are now clearly panicking at polling showing they are set to lose seats to the SNP.

“The fact is that the SNP will never let the Tories into power. As Tory cuts continue to hit the poorest hardest and the gap between rich and poor widens, ­Labour need to explain why they blocked the devolution of welfare in the Smith Commission just last week.”

“Next May, Scots have the opportunity to elect a strong team of SNP MPs to make sure Scotland’s voice is heard – and to ensure Scotland gets the powers it needs to move away from failed Westminster austerity and deliver real social justice.”

Scotsman

MaxK - 06 Dec 2014 14:57 - 52335 of 81564

A "jobs guarantee"?

Chris Carson - 06 Dec 2014 15:04 - 52336 of 81564

First round of golf today for weeks, good job on winter greens and not summer. God it was cold first 10 holes, then the sun came out and I could feel my hands again. Keeps the old swing going winter golf and always guaranteed the odd come again shot. I love a pint after a round with a sarnie. Sadly thanks to the 'Nanny State' certainly not worth the risk now with the new drink driving laws which commence tomorrow in Scotland. A mug of coffee did the trick though. Clubs profits will plummet but hey if it saves lives, has to be good.

cynic - 06 Dec 2014 15:16 - 52337 of 81564

52327 - congrats! you've woken up at last

cynic - 06 Dec 2014 15:17 - 52338 of 81564

how nice that we rarely have to suffer the bore of ANY winter (temporary) greens

Chris Carson - 06 Dec 2014 15:31 - 52339 of 81564

To be honest cynic it doesn't really matter. It just makes a nice change to play a different course (reversed) and shortened. The air is obviously a lot thinner so the ball doesn't go as far, to compensate 3/4 handicap for competitions. Plus cold to you southern softies would be a heatwave on the east coast of Scotland. At least 5 to 10 degrees difference in temperature.
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