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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

cynic - 08 Dec 2014 09:01 - 52398 of 81564

for sure AS will be elected

Chris Carson - 08 Dec 2014 09:05 - 52399 of 81564

The Tories must stand united
To win an outright majority, the Conservatives must together make a convincing case for how they would continue to make Britain better

By Telegraph View6:25AM GMT 08 Dec 2014
With less than half a year until the election, the Conservatives’ minds ought to be focused on the task of winning an outright majority. David Cameron has written to his MPs outlining the need to take the fight to the Liberal Democrats, and to use last week’s Autumn Statement as a springboard for the hard months ahead.
In his article for the Telegraph today, Danny Alexander, the Chief Secretary to the Treasury, shows what awaits the Tories during the campaign: demonisation, not just from Labour but also from their Coalition partners, as harsh, uncaring and obsessed with cutting back the state. Meanwhile, Ukip will continue to snipe away from the party’s Right flank.
To counter this, Mr Cameron apparently plans to make the election a choice between “competence and chaos”. Indeed, that is not just a slogan, but an accurate summation of the reality. Either the Tories win an outright majority, and continue their good work in strengthening the economy, reforming public services and putting the state and its finances on a more sustainable footing, or we will be forced to spend five more years enduring the grubby compromises of coalition – or, worst of all worlds, Ed Miliband will replace Mr Cameron in Downing Street, and bring all of that good work to a crashing halt.
At the moment, the polls indicate that both main parties are neck and neck. Mr Cameron will be hoping that, as election day approaches, the nature of the choice voters face will crystallise in their minds: him or Mr Miliband? But he also knows that the electorate rewards parties that appear united. And a Conservative Party that marches towards its Labour foes, swords in hand, is a very different beast to one that takes that result for granted and busies itself burying those swords in colleagues’ backs. That is why it is so disquieting to read that the thoughts of many leading Tories are turning to another election – namely, the choice of successor to David Cameron as party leader. George Osborne, Theresa May, Boris Johnson and Sajid Javid have all been mentioned as potential contenders, with their partisans reported to be positioning themselves for the battle to come.


A measure of ambition is natural in any politician. But there are more important matters to attend to – for the significance of this election cannot be overstated, both for the Tories and for the country as a whole. To win an outright majority, the Conservatives need to make a convincing case for how they would continue to make Britain better, and why their policies will help not just the wealthy but all those in society. And in doing so, they must present a united front against Labour, Ukip and the Lib Dems alike

ExecLine - 08 Dec 2014 09:14 - 52400 of 81564

TK is a chef who takes great delight in people enjoying his food. He is at the top of my 'Top 4' favourite TV chefs too. I do like watching:

1. Tom Kerridge
2. Hairy Bikers
3. Rick Stein
4. Jamie Oliver
5. Gok Wan
6. Ching He-Huang
7. Ken Hom
8. Lorraine Pascale
9. Delia Smith
10. James Martin

We have loads ands loads of cook books! Our fitted kitchen was even designed to take quite a few too.

PS. Notice how Nigella is not on my top 10 list. I find her programmes quite irritating. However, I would commend her recipe for marinating a Christmas Turkey prior to roasting it in the oven. What an utterly amazing result!

TV Chefs 'A-Z'

cynic - 08 Dec 2014 09:24 - 52401 of 81564

TK is a nice guy, but have never fancied his recipes
all seem too fatty and stodgy by half

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The Tories must stand united to win an outright majority
not a snowball's chance, and thank goodness, it's also very unlikely that the grey plasticine team on the benches opposite will either
however, it is not inconceivable that SNP will align themselves with labour, perhaps informally

MaxK - 08 Dec 2014 09:27 - 52402 of 81564

MaxK - 08 Dec 2014 10:28 - 52403 of 81564

Fred1new - 08 Dec 2014 10:36 - 52404 of 81564

I look forward after May to seeing the CON party spluttering into two separate factions which but all in name they have already done.

One group holding on to their soiled name of Tory party with Boris the Berlusconi of British politics and their party leader and the other group adhering themselves to UKIP with Farage the car salesman of far right British politics.
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Having a guess, SNP won't get as many seats as projected at the moment and will align themselves with Labour.

Lib/Dems in England and Scotland will do better than presently expected and will probably attach themselves to Labour.

God knows how the Northern Irish will align.

Can see Toriy MPs almost disappearing in Wales and those Lab and Lib/Dems elected aligning with Labour on important issues.

Overall a Coalition of Labour, Lib/Dems, and SNP.

It will be interesting to watch, but would not like the problems they will have to face.
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The things, which the new government will have to address. Almost like post WW2..
1) Devolution of some more power to Scotland.
2) Decentralisation
3) Number of administrators
4) Cost of administrators.
5) Removal of Police commissionaires.
6) Diverting attention from the failures and those responsible in London for them.

(The above introduced as an attempt by Cameron to divert attention from the failed economic policies of the present government. Which seem to me and expensive waste of time, in order to devolve responsibility without real power and of little ongoing benefit. Local representation could be deal with in a different manner.)

7) Damage to the NHS and Welfare state.
8) Repair of the once again deterioration of the general infrastructure of the country.
9) Overhaul of the Tax system and Financial services etc..

That is only a start after 5 years of tory mismanagement!

Fred1new - 08 Dec 2014 10:40 - 52405 of 81564

Of course there will have to be an inquiry of how this present government presented its economic data.

doodlebug4 - 08 Dec 2014 11:02 - 52406 of 81564

By Christopher Booker
10:00PM GMT 06 Dec 2014
It was on July 14 1998 that Gordon Brown announced that he planned to double public spending in 10 years, writes Christopher Booker.

Strangely missing from all of last week’s talk about the “government deficit” and Gordon Brown stepping down as an MP was any reference to the origins of what future generations will look back on as arguably the most catastrophic political blunder in our history.

The reason why Mr Brown for two years enjoyed a reputation as a “prudent” Chancellor was that he had been committed by his predecessor, Kenneth Clarke, to keep public spending under tight control under the “Maastricht criteria”. (It was not widely noted that Britain was bound by the Maastricht Treaty to comply with stages one and two of Economic and Monetary Union – it was only from stage three, the euro, that we had an opt-out.)

This had cut public spending to a mere 36 per cent of GDP, its lowest point for four decades. But on July 14 1998, carried away by the success of the economy he inherited from the Tories, Brown announced, with the aid of his economic adviser, Ed Balls, that he now planned to double public spending in 10 years. As the Economist memorably observed, he had “morphed from Scrooge into Father Christmas”.

The consequences of Brown’s hubris, as we now see, are that public spending has soared from £322 billion a year to £732 billion, still remorselessly rising every year. Despite the talk of “cuts” so beloved of the BBC, under this Government alone the national debt has more than doubled, having recently topped a mind-boggling £1.5 trillion.

George Osborne may talk airily of spending £2 billion on roads here, another £2 billion on flood defences there. But each of these sums represents only what he has this year had to borrow each week to plug the ever-widening hole in our finances. So dire is our plight that the £60 billion a year we now pay just in interest on our borrowings has risen to become the fifth-largest item in public spending, exceeded only by the ever-rising bills for welfare, education and the NHS.

Mr Osborne may now talk even more recklessly of how he hopes to cut the deficit to zero within five years. But so long as hundreds of council officials and NHS managers continue to pay themselves more than the £142,000 a year earned by the Prime Minister – let alone that £50 billion earmarked for HS2 – we know nothing is seriously being done to rein in a public-spending spree that continues to spray out our cash uncontrollably in all directions.

We can scarcely expect to be told about this by the BBC, when 91 of its executives have also arranged to pay themselves more than Mr Cameron every year. We live in a country where too many people in the public sector have totally lost contact with reality.

But the start of it was that day back in 1998 when Messrs Brown and Balls unleashed a monster that now threatens to swallow us all.

Haystack - 08 Dec 2014 12:02 - 52407 of 81564

"oil prices could fall as low as $43 a barrel next year"

http://www.cnbc.com/id/102246693

"Without OPEC intervention, markets risk becoming unbalanced, with peak oversupply likely in the second quarter of 2015," Morgan Stanley analyst Adam Longson said.

In a report dated Dec. 5, the U.S. investment bank said oil prices could fall as low as $43 a barrel next year. The bank cut its average 2015 Brent base-case outlook by $28 to $70 per barrel, and by $14 to $88 a barrel for 2016.

Signs that the U.S. shale industry has yet to be hit by the slump in crude prices, adding three new oil-drilling rigs in the last week, further depressed the market.

"It was just a small increase, but nevertheless it was an increase despite the sharp price drop," said Carsten Fritsch, senior oil and commodities analyst at Commerzbank in Frankfurt.

TANKER - 08 Dec 2014 12:08 - 52408 of 81564

My £60,000 in benefits helped build my house: Romanian migrant boasts handouts from the UK have helped him construct home for wife and children in his homeland
Ion Lazar says handouts are funding the property in a Romanian village
The 36-year-old said: 'It's like free money, thank you England'
The part-time scrap metal dealer receives £1,700 in benefits a month


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2864952/My-60-000-benefits-helped-build-house-Romanian-migrant-boasts-handouts-UK-helped-construct-home-wife-children-homeland.html#ixzz3LJ7P0n2P
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TANKER - 08 Dec 2014 12:44 - 52409 of 81564

and this gov is taking benefits off our disabled a bloody disgrace how people can support these actions is beyond me . we must get this evil people out

Haystack - 08 Dec 2014 12:50 - 52410 of 81564

They are taking benefits away from people who turn out not to be disabled. Many 'disabled' people have been receiving benefits for years without being assessed again, which is clearly wrong.

cynic - 08 Dec 2014 12:56 - 52411 of 81564

the part-time scrap metal dealer receives £1,700 in benefits a month

of course the mail is a source of impeccable accuracy, but i bet this rumanian chappy is a pikey dealing in cash only for his scrap metal, and that being of questionable origin too

Haystack - 08 Dec 2014 13:05 - 52412 of 81564

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pikey

pikey

From the English "turnpike", the place where itinerent travellers and thieves would camp near a settlement.

Pikey is not a racial group, the term is used to describe anyone who lives in a caravan or shares the same values and "culture" of "the travelling community", and whose main sources of income are as follows:

Stealing cars, flogging roses in pubs for "childrens' charities", nicking lead off roofs, burgling garden sheds, blagging entry to old peoples house to rob them, doing dodgy tarmac jobs ("we've got some black stuff left over from a job up the road"), sometimes with mint imperials used as a substitute for white chippings, or, reportedly, using snow to lay slabs on when the sand ran out, stealing your bollocks if they weren't in a bag and anything else that's not nailed down and anything that is nailed down but will fit in the back of an untaxed Transit when nobody's looking.

Characterised by lurchers on a string, a unintelligible language that "isn't English, it isn't Irish, it's just Pikey" (source: Film: Snatch), a penchant for harecoursing, ketamine, lighter fuel, fighting in pubs and shopping at Lidl.

Best avoided.

Haystack - 08 Dec 2014 13:08 - 52413 of 81564

Clinton Cards have had to apologise because of a Christmas card. It suggested that Father Christmas lives on a council estate as he has a history of breaking and entering and only works once a year.

doodlebug4 - 08 Dec 2014 13:09 - 52414 of 81564

"Shopping at Lidl"??! I've heard rumours that Lidl have upped their game. :-)

doodlebug4 - 08 Dec 2014 13:13 - 52415 of 81564

Clinton Cards - many a true word spoken in jest!

MaxK - 08 Dec 2014 13:24 - 52416 of 81564

re: this Romanian character with his £25k pa benefits.


What is to stop retired people from going "self employed", dishing out leaflets etc, and claiming in work benefits?

Haystack - 08 Dec 2014 13:29 - 52417 of 81564

Nothing, provided their total income including pension is low enough. In work benefits are not that much and only increase if you have school age children which would be unlikely if they are retired.
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