Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

aldo - not quite fair as generally speaking i don't think both parents would have had jobs ...... however, most labour-saving gadgets were not readily available either - eg washing machines, vacuum cleaners, dishwashers

total flannel sticky .....

except you're right that people are also too damn lazy or ignorant even when strapped for cash and would rather spend far too many of their few pennies buying instant (high salt, high fat, low nutrition) ready-made meals + biscuits, cakes, fizzy drinks, sweets etc

lack of time is total rubbish ......
for as i said, an awful lot of very tasty and nutritious meals can be made very quickly ..... or things like casseroles will last several days and the remnants then used as soup base

Rubbish, your out of touch cyners.

Why do you think the the Tory peer had to apologise.

Your in a minority.

Do you realise some of these working people get home and then within a hour or so have to go back out working to make ends meet.

Why because of a low wage economy which only looks after the ultra rich.

And dont forget not everyone is a trained cook like yourself, in fact some people despice having to cook.

There as to be a will.

The woman apologised because it was politically expedient to do so, not because she was wrong.

She was ignorant Hays.

i answered a slightly different question, primarily about being able to eat cheaply and also to construct simple and nutritious and tasty meals without spending ages doing so

by the way, the only person who ever trained me was me, and though i may be quite good by household standards, i'm truly pathetic relative to nearly all these amateur cooks one sees competing on tv



some people despise having to cook ..... there has to be a will.
that's a lousy excuse if people are then complaining about trying to make ends meet
as the school report would say, "should try harder"

"There as to be a will." What rubbish, it's called a neccesity - whether people like cooking or not. It doesn't cost a fortune to make a plate of porridge and it's one of the best things that children can be fed before they go to school in the morning. This stuff about kids turning up at school without having any breakfast because families can't afford to feed them is just nonsense.

and nowadays there's "instant porridge" that takes about 3 minutes in the microwave ..... that, made with milk + some honey or sultanas and (s)he'll be set aright until lunchtime

or scrambled eggs = high protein and very quick indeed

OK for you who spends most of your time on the golf course some people dont have that luxury and very little time to cook.

Wheelchair access

Ohhh I see so a porridge dinner is OK FOR THEM but not good enough for me.

Ill have a cheap steak cut with trimmings.

Yes Cyners that just about sums up the Tories out of touch way of thinking.

very little time to cook
so how long does it take to cook a cheap and simple breakfast per above?

what would be a reasonable amount of time for cooking dinner (tea to you!)?
bear in mind that a good number of recipes that come readily to mind can be used several days over in the same or different formats ..... rather like the poor(er) families did in 50s

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methinks you're really struggling to find a sensible escape

That's about right. Poorer people will eat poorer quality and less desirable food. That's reality. They will drive cheaper cars, wear cheaper clothes. You have to budget in terms of what you want compared with what you can have. However, with a bit of thought, you can eat healthy food very cheaply.

don't confuse cheaper cuts of meat with being poorer quality - eg oxtail, ox cheeks, belly pork, chicken livers, braising steak (make your own good quality mince with that too)

similarly, (even) supermarkets almost give away meat and fish and vegetables and bread that is on its last sell by date - damn fool institution that is

I don't think many people use left overs from the previous day any more. One of my favourites growing up was stovies = left over potatoes cooked in a frying pan with some corned beef or bits of bacon.

certainly we regularly eat a soup or a stew 2 days running
a roast chicken will also do at least two meals for us

nevertheless, what you say is patently true, but as the old saying goes, waste not want not .....
can't be bothered to cook? ...... can't be bothered to put even a bit of effort into making cheaper meals and so on and so on?
sympathy can quickly start to evaporate

Breaking news. No details yet.

http://news.sky.com/story/1388151/impropriety-claims-ukip-suspends-top-official


UKIP has suspended its general secretary Roger Bird following allegations of impropriety.

He's just training to be an MP.

Looks like he is fully trained!