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FTSE + FTSE 250 - consider trading (FTSE)     

cynic - 20 Oct 2007 12:12

rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.

for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ

for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance

cynic - 13 May 2010 17:04 - 5266 of 21973

is this the pundits who get it right?

halifax - 13 May 2010 17:10 - 5267 of 21973

cynic somebody has to make a prediction their guess is as good as the next guy's. Prediction oil down to $65 soon, pump price unchanged!

cynic - 13 May 2010 17:34 - 5268 of 21973

i don't think their prediction is very realistic
ftse may well fall, but 1000 points would be way over the top and imply a worldwide economic implosion - and that is not going to happen; racing certainty, not prediction!

unless $ skyrockets, $65.00 is also not going to be seen, except maybe as a very short blip for some unknown reason ..... not quite as confident about that as above, but still heavy odds on that it WON'T happen

Balerboy - 13 May 2010 17:40 - 5269 of 21973

Halifax your not at all positive at the mo.....anything you want to talk about???? we're sympathetic listeners..

Camelot - 13 May 2010 17:41 - 5270 of 21973

another top picker ?
from what level is it going to fall 1000 pts ?

"pundits predicting a further 1000pt fall in the FTSE.."

halifax - 13 May 2010 17:50 - 5271 of 21973

wait for Osbourne's next statement on how dire the uk's economic situation really is, do we expect good news?, government spending slashed, taxes(probably VAT 20%) raised.

cynic - 13 May 2010 18:01 - 5272 of 21973

the picture painted will assuredly be very black .... then when the "cure" then starts to work, it'll be "told you so"

halifax - 13 May 2010 18:09 - 5273 of 21973

cynic so how will the FTSE react to the "black" news?

ThePublisher - 13 May 2010 18:28 - 5274 of 21973

But we all know the picture is black, don't we.

Is that not already accounted for in the value of the FTSE?

I thought what we were waiting for was someone in charge prepared to admit it and to tell us we have to take the medicine.

Two percent added to the cost of goods for VAT. If that is going to help then it gets my vote. Doubling VAT would be harder to tolerate - but we don't take that sort of radical measure in GB do we.

TP

cynic - 13 May 2010 18:34 - 5275 of 21973

i think most is built in too ..... of course, ftse is not just "london focussed" with oil, miners and banks i think making up the preponderance of companies ..... thus oilies and miners will benefit or be unaffected (overseas earners), always subject to Dow movements, whereas banks have probably built in most of the medicine coming their way

halifax - 13 May 2010 18:39 - 5276 of 21973

It all depends on how "black" the real economic picture is,with unemployment rising benefit payments increasing and tax receipts falling the deficit will be extremely difficult to manage. We hope the electorate will remember brown as being responsible for this disaster, but people have short memories when bad news happens.

cynic - 13 May 2010 18:51 - 5277 of 21973

they will have 4 years to appreciate the WONDERFUL job the yellows and blues are doing ..... more seriously, the big world economies are def on a growth track again, though uk unemployment will probably take another year to start turning meaningfully .... employment is the last to be hit/benefit in each cycle .... even so, there is an inevitable trickle-down effect as industry in general starts an upturn

halifax - 13 May 2010 18:56 - 5278 of 21973

cynic in the short term(1 year) are you saying our economy is improving or deteriorating?

cynic - 13 May 2010 20:15 - 5279 of 21973

improving though you may not notice it on the high street - and no, that is not a politician's answer

cynic - 13 May 2010 20:31 - 5280 of 21973

dow stumbling towards 100 point loss so london will be down tomorrow say 40+ points at opening .... and as it has been fairly positive these last days, expect that loss to be extended, not least because it's friday

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if the above proves correct, then it will be interesting to see how far the likes of RKH fall away, though there is good news hoped for next week (giving a good buying opportunity?) as well as DES and of course the likes of CHAR, which may end up having a charred indian rope (sorry; a laboured pun)

Camelot - 13 May 2010 21:12 - 5281 of 21973

cash equivalent of futures is currently trading about 5400
after showing a new high today

VAT increase is already in the market

however as cynic says FTSE is driven by a bunch of stocks which are overseas earners

so govt action is unlikely to cause anything other than a knee jerk for a day or so

we have May expiry soon and we will know more after that

what has my attention is the growing level of civil unrest that is being caused by public service cuts

you know how militant these unions and collective direct action groups are



Camelot - 13 May 2010 21:42 - 5282 of 21973

as for the Dow, it has already broken up and through the Jul/Feb support line
and is back testing from above

if that succeeds , the odds are on a further high

halifax - 13 May 2010 22:37 - 5283 of 21973

cynic we all accept we are heading into choppy waters, it is likely that during the quiet summer months the FTSE will decline as there isn't much chance of good news. Better to take a break and come back on St Leger's day.

cynic - 14 May 2010 07:38 - 5284 of 21973

that is far from saying ftse will fall 1000 points!

halifax - 14 May 2010 15:28 - 5285 of 21973

cynic you must be doing quite nicely with your FTSE short!
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