cynic
- 20 Oct 2007 12:12
rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.
for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ
for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance
required field
- 08 Jan 2008 21:28
- 527 of 21973
Here we go again, another dow drop, oh it's great : investing !
HARRYCAT
- 08 Jan 2008 22:15
- 528 of 21973
Ah well, I presume the shorters will be out in force tomorrow morning.
Another reminder for the equity holders to keep locking in profit at the moment.
The U.S. sneezes & we all catch a cold!
cynic
- 09 Jan 2008 06:18
- 529 of 21973
all looking very scary evben though indoications as i write are for Dow to recover 70 ..... whether or not that holds is a good Q
pericles
- 09 Jan 2008 08:40
- 530 of 21973
One of the largest US independent SIVs, Victoria, has been downgraded by S&P to practically junk status,onlys a few months ago it was triple A. Barc & RBS with fingers in the US pie down this am, not taking advantage of high yields until more is known about the us side of these uk banks.
2517GEORGE
- 09 Jan 2008 09:03
- 531 of 21973
Boy am I glad I did not write that, cynic.
2517
spitfire43
- 09 Jan 2008 09:39
- 532 of 21973
pericles - the yield is tempting with UK Banks like Barclay's and RBS, but I have a feeling they haven't been as honest with writedowns as the US and European Banks have, best to wait for next month's finals.
Falcothou
- 09 Jan 2008 09:41
- 533 of 21973
I gather Buffett won't be interested in tucking into banks until at least the third quarter,presumably because it's impossible to assess their fundamentals
pericles
- 09 Jan 2008 11:04
- 534 of 21973
spitfire,yes I agree, and even though the results season may not (yet!) reveal any results which are worse than those admitted to at the moment, I will have difficulty in beleiving that there is no more bad news to come. Sadly I now put the banks in the same category as political parties esp gordons lot, and I tend to think that whatever I see or hear from either lot is not likely to be the whole truth!
HARRYCAT
- 09 Jan 2008 12:40
- 535 of 21973
Might see the red turn to blue this afternoon as the DOW is tipped to recover a little, with bright outlook from DuPont but to counter that, not such good news for holders of Apple. Futures currently +30.
steveo
- 09 Jan 2008 14:35
- 536 of 21973
I am short on banks up to next months interims, especially A&L as I can't see anyone wanting to buy the bank as it will only get cheaper in the run up to next months interims. Target 550p for me. Long on yen against dollar as well, currently short on gold as due a short term correction. Should've shorted ftse but will wait now until boe decision.
Good interview on bloomberg last night, platinum is the place to be, safe haven, best metal for diesel catlysts, which are in increasing demand due to oil price not to mention fuel cells etc, but will wait for a pull back, expected to give better returns than gold apparently.
I'll put down the stock tips in relation to this when I find the scrap I wrote them on!
spitfire43
- 09 Jan 2008 18:34
- 537 of 21973
Would think banks will continue to head south until we have more writedowns. Will wait for the price to book values to fall further and use as a guide. In the 1990 banking crises US banks were down to at least 60% of P/BV which proved to be the bottom.
cynic
- 09 Jan 2008 18:56
- 538 of 21973
as i write, Dow once more looking sickly (-60) but GOOG down a whopping $40+, admittedly on a serious heavyweight at $625 ..... glad not in that any more!
Falcothou
- 09 Jan 2008 19:54
- 539 of 21973
Enjoyed Jim Rogers Hot commodities book published 2007. If you can't be bothered reading it he says that commodities hit rock bottom in 1998 with respect to inflation and have been rallying since then, albeit in fits and starts, the pullbacks can be quite extreme. Essentially the ones to go for are ones with supply/demand issues and over this century there has historically been a commodities run after equities go bearish. The FTSE is more like a commodities index itself of course especially since August. If there is high demand ie from China and India then it takes a long time to establish crops such as coffee or to build a mine so even if there is strong demand supply remains constrained for some time. I'm looking for a pull back to get into US Sugar as it is a popular biofuel in Brazil and the EU has cut the subsidy on Sugarbeet. I read recently that Goldman Sachs are bullish soft commodities which are very sensitive to weather and harvests, but less so metals which have enjoyed a great run in 2007.
steveo
- 09 Jan 2008 23:06
- 540 of 21973
Here are some of the platinum tips
phpt:uk is an etf
anglo platinum agppy:us 75% owned by anglo-american another was impala platinum impuy:us, impala is higher risk as it is mainly in zimbabwe.
You can't see charts with moneyam but they are available on bloomberg.com.
Question is will it pull back to gain a better entry point. Please DYOR. As a fund manager tipped them on live TV yesterday he will probably sell tommorrow and buy back in a week !!!!
cynic
- 10 Jan 2008 09:44
- 541 of 21973
indicators, which i agree often prove wrong, are that last night's rally was no more than a DCB ..... Dow indicating to open -89
HARRYCAT
- 10 Jan 2008 11:42
- 542 of 21973
Only -13 now, but crucial FED speech this afternoon & also BoE rate decision to come. Sideways trading 'til then, imo.
HARRYCAT
- 10 Jan 2008 12:02
- 543 of 21973
No change to BoE rate. Held at 5.5%
Now it's up to the U.S. this afternoon.
cynic
- 10 Jan 2008 17:39
- 544 of 21973
below is a snippet from www.cnnfn.com and explains why Dow has suddenly come to life this afternoon, despite a bunch of pretty negative reports ....
Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke pledged Thursday to slash interest rates yet again to prevent housing and credit problems from plunging the country into a recession.
The Fed chief made clear the central bank was prepared to act aggressively to rescue a weakening economy.
cynic
- 10 Jan 2008 17:41
- 545 of 21973
was initially up about 100, but now back to almost neutral, but that is still a lot better than it might have been and looked at the opening bell ..... last hour of trading could be its usual exciting stuff!
cynic
- 11 Jan 2008 18:28
- 546 of 21973
Wall Street is currently plummeting (down 195 and has been lower), but for sure the Fed is going to cut rates quite aggressively and i dare say if there are other stimuli that can be applied, it will ..... it therefore seems to me that a long flutter on one the US indices may shortly be quite tempting