Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

I think the phrase Mili-disaster sums up Labour.
2517

And todays prize for the longest cut & paste goes to..........

Fred--------''but in spite of many faults the recent labour government had, I think, attempted to take into consideration the "needs" of the whole of UK population which may have reduced the benefits of some of the "idle" rich''.
No, they helped create a myriad of highly paid non-jobs, and tried to create a voting base of benefit claimants, all at the expense of hard working families.
2517

Do you mean like Fund managers, Bank directors etc. Who are still running wild under Dave and Georgie boy.

Of course they paid their taxes in the Cayman Isles etc..

Get back in your box!

fred - why do you nearly always prefix the word "rich" with the descriptive "idle" or something equally pejorative?

But seriously, there all from the same stock, educated the same way, have the same end game anyway..... The election, it just makes you believe that you have a choice, that democracy has been served, that there's freedom of choice. The policies have already been agreed, all the General Election will decide is who will be seen to bring them in and take the credit or failure afterwards....

And if you get Balls as chancellor, he will be a private fee paying schoolboy!

2517GEORGE Send an email to 2517GEORGE View 2517GEORGE's profile - 11 Dec 2014 17:13 - 52804 of 52809

and tried to create a voting base of benefit claimants,............ends

and since when have people who reply completely on benefits have ever been considered to be a VOTING BASE.........dear oh dear.

GEORGE out of touch im afraid, nothing personal but you need to stop reading the right wing press papers.

Those who choose to live on benefits as life style (which is dammed nigh impossible now) are the least likely people of all to go out and vote on election day.

Riot club ie, snob club

Class War 2014: The Rich Kids of Snapchat
Posted by David Hencke

The Conservatives don't need people on benefits to vote for them, just as Maggie didn't.

don't be such an arrogant little shit :-)
conseravtives need ever goddam vote they can muster ...... it's all going to be a very close run thing

That is not what I meant. They don't need policies to attract people on benefits. Maggie and the present party just need to have policies that they believe in. Miliband is dreaming up slogans and policies to attract people who are on benefits as a cynical ploy. He has no real policies, that's why there will be no detail till after the election.

But Cameroon doesent believe in anything outside his own interests.

Mind you, the other two are the same.



Which leaves ukip, which at least has something to hang it's hat on (norra lot granted) a single policy that would transform the UK.

By Simon Johnson, Scottish Political Editor
5:45PM GMT 11 Dec 2014
The Advocate General for Scotland argues there is no excuse for the Scottish Government refusing to answer Freedom of Information requests about the former First Minister's spending on luxury accommodation.

The Coalition Government’s most senior adviser on Scots law has delivered an outspoken attack on the SNP’s secrecy in government by highlighting their attempts to prevent disclosure of Alex Salmond’s luxury hotel stays.

Lord Wallace of Tankerness, the Advocate General for Scotland, said the watchdog in charge of ensuring public bodies comply with Freedom of Information (FOI) requests had delivered a “pretty damning indictment” of the Nationalists’ behaviour.

The Liberal Democrat former Deputy First Minister referred to a request for details of the hotels in which Mr Salmond stayed while abroad that the Scottish Government had refused despite the trips being funded by taxpayers’ money.

But he told an FOI conference marking the tenth anniversary of the legislation that Nicola Sturgeon, Mr Salmond’s successor, made some “very positive noises” before her appointment about being more open.

The Telegraph disclosed in March how the then-First Minister had argued that making public which five-star hotel he stayed at in Chicago during his trip to the Ryder Cup would jeopardise his safety.

We later discovered that he spent £3,000 on four nights with his wife in a “grand deluxe suite” at the Peninsula Hotel, which covered more than 1,000 sq ft of floor space and a marble bathroom.

In other examples involving this newspaper, Mr Salmond fought a seven – month battle to prevent details being made public of how he used more than £250 of taxpayers' money to buy a pair of tartan trews.

He paid back the money only after this newspaper tabled an FOI request that would have disclosed the purchase.

The former SNP leader also used taxpayers’ money to twice go to Scotland’s highest civil court to prevent disclosure of how much his local income tax would cost families.

Lord Wallace cited a later example of another newspaper that also tabled a request about Mr Salmond’s hotel use, which resulted in the FOI commissioner issuing a highly critical response attacking Scottish ministers’ “unacceptable” failure to respond.

“What is the great secret about which hotel abroad the First Minister stays in on public business and the cost of that accommodation?” Lord Wallace asked.

“Now, Nicola’s predecessor has many qualities, but a shrinking violet he is not. It is hard to imagine that when staying in a hotel, he does so incognito.”

The former Scottish Liberal Democrat leader said it would not have required “any great effort” to find the information as records of Mr Salmond’s travel arrangements and expenditure would have been readily accessible.

But he told the Edinburgh conference he had been “struck” by the number of times the FOI commissioner has ruled that Scottish ministers have failed to reply to a request within the prescribed timescale of 20 working days.

Liam McArthur, a Lib Dem MSP, recently tabled a parliamentary question asking how many times Scottish ministers have failed to reply within that deadline.

But Lord Tankerness said Ms Sturgeon had refused to provide a response on the grounds that it could only be obtained at “disproportionate cost”.

He acknowledged that it can be difficult to honour previous promises of open government “once real power is wielded” but encouraged her to stand by what she has previously said.

My impression is that the Conservatives do believe in their policies. They believe that they are doing what is best for the country. The one person that I am sure that applies to is Ian Duncan Smith. He is dedicated to improving the lives of poorer people.

He started up the Centre for Social Justice when in opposition in 2004.

http://www.centreforsocialjustice.org.uk/about-us/history

The centre has done a huge amount of work for people.

http://www.centreforsocialjustice.org.uk/about-us/social-breakdown-and-poverty

It is good that Button has signed for McLaren again.

And todays prize for the 2nd longest cut & paste goes to.......... -):

Centre for social justice? don't use words that you don't know the meaning of H/S and that goes for Smuts as well.