Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Partly the trouble with this voting either way is that : everybody assumes that if you vote against remaining in the common market is that you are against the common market ! or against Europe at all : that's not true.....it's not the trading with europe or dealing or even funding our fair share of the common market that brexit or opters-out or whatever you might call them are against ; it's that Britain does not retain as it is control over our status in Europe as an individual nation able to restrict illegal immigration into our country and it's the fact that we the UK citizens are paying over the odds for our participation in the Eurozone !.....the exit voters are being made to feel bad about wanting out ! : that is not right !.....

That's really made me mad ,Cameron spending our money on trying to manipulate us to stay in the EU.

Most of you lot on here put him in 2010.. so save your time, stop moaning and work to get him out.

For who Stan ? maybe that's a question you will answer .

Already answered it on the Muppet thread and months ago on here JB.

I missed that so what's the problem with repeating it ?

WE are NO LONGER in the common market, that is now obsolete...It has been replaced with a POLITICAL AGENDA, which was know about from inception but kept from the public..


And why anyone would feel bad about leaving an undemocratic, unaccountable, unregulated organisation is beyond me...

And of course under the rules of the EU, immigration from the other 27 countries is not illegal, but the only way to stop it is to LEAVE, but when you've got millions coming into europe from around the world thats exaggerated the situation massively, then that's illegal......

As to the lying deceptive leaflets being distributed...People will see through the lies, plus of course more people are seeing what a lying snake oil salesman cameron really is....

In general I don't like encouraging laziness JB, as I say if you go to the Muppet thread it's on there as from today.

Such a complete pratt Stan ,i don't know why you bother.

Yes I think you probably are JB.. among other things that is.

There are three new EU referendum polls. ICM and YouGov have both published polls conducted online and showing one point leads for REMAIN. ICM’s figures are REMAIN 44%, LEAVE 43%, DK 13%, YouGov’s are REMAN 39%, LEAVE 28%, DK/WNV 23%.
There was also new ORB telephone poll for the Telegraph. This is a little more interesting. This poll shows a seven point lead for REMAIN (REMAIN 51%, LEAVE 44%, DK 5%).

Polls Hays ,i'm ignoring them at the moment in or out as i don't think they are a true reflection .

i think they probably are, but i shall be voting "out" anyway

Will you leave the country if the result is to stay in the EU?

i have no intention or wish to live elsewhere, but i wonder about MrT :-)

Me too.

I have lived in SW Florida for a number of years and will one day go back full time ,sooner if Britain goes to the dogs.

I'm looking forward to some tv debates with someone who can put forward the TRUTH without the lies or deception that the remain side feel they need to use, there's no need for the LEAVE side to lie or deceive they've just got to put the FACTS and the consequencie's of staying in the corrupt, undemocratic eu..

Yup hopefully it's coming .

There will be no truth in the TV debates. It will be scare tactics all the way. The two sides cannot even agree how much our net contribution to the EU is.