Yuff - apologies if I misled anyone. "100k trial" was just short-hand. Moneylender, although the potential is fantastic, I am not absolutely certain what you are saying - probably my fault. If the "contract" offers the potential for much higher income, why bother to set an upper limit of 100k. Pt 4 of your last post seems misleading: "The RNS has to be accurate - $100,000 is the initial contract. Over a year the vaue may well be in the millions -but they can't be sure so they can only publish what they are certain about." If they are not sure, then why state any figure. The answer must surely be that as 100k is daily pocket-money expenses for just one director of MSFT, if they are not happy with the outcome then they will pull the portal/plug. There are thousands of websites that offer free trail software for short periods of time -provided there are the normal discliamers regarding absence of long-term MSFT support there is nothing wrong in dropping Tad after a few weeks. I hope that Tad succeeds - I have a lot riding on it - but I do not share your current level of optimism.

pachandl
MSFT's is the trialware not tad.

pachandl

First of all the above post is not mine, it was written by NKB off another bb.
However, i think what he says is fairly close to the mark.
We have a contract to supply MS trialware downloads, ours is a contract it is not a trial, or thats the way I read it.
Why put a max figure? Apparently this is common practice in the IT world, but as my background is cars i have to take others word for that. But it would make sense otherwise they would have to declare our percentage of any download cost, and I am sure this would be commercially VERY sensitive and a no go area.

I hope this helps but i like you do not yet have the full facts, but i am sure
it will help the long term future of Tadpole.

M

ML
You are absolutely right about the contract. When Tads achieve $80k in downloads MS will put in another order for more downloads, as someone else said earlier it is a bit like pay as you go on mobile phones.
The markets are disappointed because the RNS mentions $100k, I am sure the HB made Tad put that in knowing it would dilute the reaction and help them out of the deep doo-doo they are in.

Well said, good point yuff

ALL the best
pjjw

Well said, good point yuff

ALL the best
pjjw

Yuff - finally torn myself away from the footers (half-time). OK, I will take your word for it at the moment and hope that it is not too long before a further MSFT extension is announced. I cannot claim to know about IT-type contracts but it just seems very peculiar, esp. as Tad made no attempt to really suggest that 100k was a base figure - or even add something bullish about the tie-up in general. Anyway, back to the screen.

yuff you mention the HB being deep in the ****. please could you explain.

regards stephen

I wonder how much press we will get today? I expect there will
be something for the week end as well.
A nice column in Midas would do!

M

Independant.

Small cap punters were surprised to seeTadpole Technology drop 0.25p to 18p after the software group unveiled a much talked of deal with Microsoft. Although the tie-up is worth just $100,000 to Tadpole, analysts argued that the adoption of its technology by the computer giant is a good endorsement of the company

M

Isn't it amazing how one word left out can change the whole article.
The word "initially" should be placed in front of just.

Morning Yuff.

Agreed, that would have made a big difference.
I understand that our inclusion in Techmark 100 is starting to
create a little interest, especially after yesterdays announcement.
Institutions are sniffing!

M

Yes I gather HP was busy taking calls yesterday morning from institutions.
It wouldn't be EVO helping them get aboard cheapply at the expense of loyal shareholders.
That would be unheard of.

Thursday June 17, 2:59 AM EDT



Tadpole Technology: Endeavors Unit Gets Microsoft Pact


LONDON -(Dow Jones)- Tadpole Technology said Thursday that its Endeavors Technology subsidiary has won a contract from Microsoft.

The initial value of the contract is based upon customer usage of the software up to an amount of $100,000.

Endeavors' AppExpress applications on-demand technology has been selected by Microsoft to stream trial versions of consumer software products to customers.

8:36 and no trades yet ....???? this is unusual and intrims round the corner as well...

gac
I am sure investors are wondering what the mm's are up to especially the HB.
The spread doesn't help, there were plenty of buyers on the news yesterday but the HB dropped on the very first sell after 15 consecutive buys. One wondrs what their agenda is but most long termers know they are short of the market.

Looks like the retarded TAD PR machine does it again

how difficult is it to word a 5 line RNS so that it actually conveys the nature of a deal and can't be misuderstood or even to reissue it with further explanation

absolute muppets

Rather quiet on here? It seems the market has not been impressed by the recent deals - we have not really advanced in the last couple of months. Unfortunately you cannot buck the market - even when it is wrong! So I am hoping for some positive press comment over the weekend to redress the imbalance. Current momentum has stalled and something needs to happen to re-invigorate it. Perhaps Midas or Express will lend us a friendly hand.

Pause for thought. Tadpole have done the business with MS, so the naysayers have lost that one...MCI are on board, now here is the interesting part, volume has been rising the past 3 days, we have a figure, $100,000 worth of down loads...now that is a small figure, but it could be a large figure...what is missing is the actual price per download to TAD, forgive me if it has been posted on a TAD board, but i haven't time to trawl through millions of filtered posts!

Anyhow, if the figure was 1$ a download, and there were 100,000 downloads a day worldwide...would that interest us...? I think so. So if the downloads were 1c a download.... and the download figures were the same for downloads would that interest us? Not us much. Now as someone posted, the MCI deal is downloads that include an airtime cut, now it starts to get interesting...not only do customers pay for the downloads but they pay airtime while connected, in MB's one presumes for GPRS users, and we get some of that.

So the figure of $100,000 is meaningless without two figures..1)The amount of downloads per day/week/month/year and 2) how many downloads $100k buys. It would seem the same genius must be behind Tads PR worldwide, when they release great news, they release it early via the press as a rummour with supposed figures, this is then re released with no figures, producing dissapointment, rage and or a falling share price. Then, the same genius releases the real news with very small figures, set in a meaningless context...my car does 0 to 60...without the seconds included. Result..you guessed it. Dissapointment, rage and or a falling share price.

I have stuck with this share for 4 years becuse i believe that dispite the best efforts of the dolts that issue the news, leak naff rumours to the press, bash and ramp on the thread and generally prevent the normal ascent of a business with a good technology and IP bank, the world of business cannot resist a chance to save a buck.

The software interest has gone from a trickle to a stream, and once the figures are realised it will be come a torrent i'm sure.

MS and Autodesk are not 2 bit players, neither is MCI and the quality of our other partners is top notch, i will have to try and be caratable and presume that the low key news release is the work of a marketing guru who wants to prevent TAD being a pump and dump stock, and wants to gradually spread the word so Endevours can keep up with the demand, rather than overstretching itself...i think this year/month/interims will decide if it is to be the next Microsoft in this country...as a picks and shovels company it stands to make a a bundle from the coming goldrush as people try and save money as their profits shrink.

I am off to compute the likely figures per download and decide on my retirement date. :)

Paleface

Tomorrow is midsummers day or the end of Spring according to TAD!
Remember the 21st has already been highlighted by Hugh patterson.
Will there be any kind of further announcements tomorrow? I notice the ETI web site has still not got the MSFT deal on it. Perhaps they are busy working away to update it tomorrow, who knows.
All I can say is get up EARLY Tomorrow, you know it makes sense.


M