Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

I thought she was the Home Secretary who Haze knows!

I thought it was a bloke Fred.

Low pay and zero-hours contracts rise dramatically, figures show

TUC report shows one in 12 in labour force now in ‘precarious employment’, huge rise since 2008



Yvonne Roberts


The Observer, Saturday 13 December 2014 21.11 GMT

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/dec/13/zero-hours-contracts-low-pay-figures-rise



Business secretary Vince Cable has proposed that those on zero-hours contracts should have the right to request a fixed-term contract. Photograph: PA



New figures have revealed the dramatic spread of low-paid, insecure and casual work across the British economy since the financial crash of 2008.

In that year, one in 20 men and one in 16 women worked in the casualised labour market. Now, one in 12 of both men and women are in precarious employment, which includes zero-hours contracts (ZHCs), agency work, variable hours and fixed-term contracts, according to new TUC data.

According to the analysis, in 2008 there were 655,000 men in the casualised labour market. That number has risen by 61.8% to 1.06 million. The casualised female workforce has increased by 35.6%, from 795,000 in 2008 to 1.08 million in 2014.

The TUC is also publishing research showing that since 2008, only one in 40 new jobs has been full-time. Over the same period, 60% of net jobs added have been self-employed and 36% have been part-time.

Employers argue that casual work often leads to a permanent post. According to the Work Foundation, however, only 44% of zero-hours contract jobs last for two years or more and 25% have lasted for five years or more. A survey by the Chartered Institute of Personnel Development estimated that there are more than a million zero-hours contract workers – 3.1% of the UK workforce – four times the estimate of the Office for National Statistics in 2012.

The business secretary, Vince Cable, has proposed that those on zero-hours contracts should have the right to request a fixed-term contract. Labour has proposed that an employee on a ZHC has the right to request permanent work after 12 months.

In its report, Women and Casualisation: Women’s Experiences of Job Insecurity, the TUC makes a number of recommendations to tackle precarious employment, including written contracts for those on zero- or short-hours contracts guaranteeing work patterns; payment for the time that a casual worker is on call; better enforcement of the minimum wage; better enforcement of statutory rights, such as the right to permanent work after four years; and more help from larger employers on childcare.

“For many women, ‘flexibility’ has become synonymous with being at the beck and call of employers,” said the TUC general secretary, Frances O’Grady. “Job insecurity isn’t just something that affects women in industries like retail and social care; it is a problem across the labour market.”

It's only taken Vince four and a half years to twig this....

For Haze and Napoleon!

Here is a Radio 4 programme which will no doubt appeal to the left wing posters on this thread who seem to be obsessed with Margaret Thatcher;

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2873006/Thatcher-murder-BBC-s-Book-Bedtime-Radio-4-ignores-protests-author-s-sick-perverted-fantasy-coveted-broadcast-slot.html

I thought the tory Neo-cons were obsessed with Maggie.

Milibland's speech did help him any!

Conservatives and Labour tied

Latest YouGov / Sunday Times results 12th December -

Con 32%, Lab 32%, LD 7%, UKIP 16%;

The commentators have been scathing regarding Milibland's speech. There was no detail and no promise of it until after the election.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/poll-shows-voters-believe-ukip-is-to-the-left-of-the-tories-9923416.html

Shock poll shows voters believe Ukip is to the left of the Tories
Labour fears that Nigel Farage is eating into its support are borne out by an intriguing survey asking voters to place parties and leaders on a political spectrum

Voters see Ukip as more left wing than the Conservative Party in a shock poll finding that will fuel concerns among Ed Miliband's allies that Nigel Farage is "parking his tanks on Labour's lawn".

A poll for The Independent on Sunday exposes what Labour strategists have been fearing for months – that voters do not regard Ukip as a party of the far right, but as one closer to the centre ground than the Tories. As such it could win Labour votes in the North. It suggests that attempts by Labour to portray Mr Farage's party as "more Thatcherite than Thatcher" have fallen flat.

Which commentators, Scnapps or Central Office?

IDS was made to look a liar over his barbaric and inhumane Welfare ideological reforms, by Andrew Neil on Politics show, which of course he is for many voters.

I think the tories should stick with him as he is one of their own!

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Interesting what Polly Toynbee and other journalist thought of IDS, representative of Cameron's government.

Come on Theresa, you know you can reform the Tories.

How do you fancy being leader for 10 years and doing it while out of office.

New figures have revealed the dramatic spread of low-paid, insecure and casual work across the British economy since the financial crash of 2008.

In that year, one in 20 men and one in 16 women worked in the casualised labour market. Now, one in 12 of both men and women are in precarious employment, which includes zero-hours contracts (ZHCs), agency work, variable hours and fixed-term contracts, according to new TUC data.

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i'm inclined to say, so what, for it is the just the way the world (and economies) move

i certainly don't like the way many work-people can be or even are exploited - and i really don't need to explain what i mean and why - and of course the trades unions don't like, but then, they wouldn't would they and i really care not about that aspect

Cynic,
As long as the governments do not intervene to resolve problems in other countries (rather than taking side and fairing the fighting), the world has to continue its downward growth and we see more and more people losing jobs and become poorer.

By stopping conflicts through helping to sort out their differences, we can develop prosperity and give hope to those innocent people (mainly in poor countries) and generate growth and future for them. The world will be better place and we will benefit as well.

Many of these fighting are due to lack of education, misunderstanding and historical mistakes by one side or both. UN and powerful countries can help to resolve these or can make them worse. Unfortunately, the latter route is usually chosen -by judging based on some reports we support one of the sides.

I think, it is difficult to say one side is 100% right and the other is 100% responsible. Example, in Iraq&Iran war Saddam was a good guy, then he became a bad guy when attacked Kuwait, and later became a danger to the whole world.

ahoj -there is just a very very tenuous link between conflict in other countries and part-time working and the like in uk ......the train of logic is so remote that it is wildly insufficient on which to hang some sort if global economic argument

Napoleon,

Bullshit!

Try thinking before posting.

And no, I am not going to explain it to you.

You are a big boy and DYOH.
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Ahoy,


War can and does often raise the level of employment, even if some of the rise in employed spend their time manufacturing arms or weapons to blow bigger and better holes in each other.

If the same enthusiasm could be found for the "forces" and "manufacturers" before, or during a humanitarian crisis then a more "comfortable" world may occur.

Unlikely, as can be seen the "dollar" is still the icon of worshiped and "possessions" the measurement of personal value for the majority.

Humm,
You might be right about defence jobs, but it certainly won't generate future prosperity and hope. It leaves death, disabled, and long term downturn for that country and its people

Clearly, since the start of conflict in Ukraine, Europe started downturn (with delay off course) and its side-effects is felt here.