Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

PS.

I hope the summer isn't too warm, when you hang your meat, or you have a large refrigerator.

How long for dry curing?

Although many benefits, some peoples use of the car and it's convenience has a lot to answer for.

The falling Rouble due to the oil price collapse has made Russia raise interest rates from 10.5% to 17% in the middle of the night last night.

fred - surprise, my butcher has proper cold rooms for dry hanging

We used to have one of those on the farm when I was very very young!

I am just young now.

but now you're well hung :-)

It happened during last government and David Miliband looks to be complicit when Foreign Secretary from 2007 to 2010.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2875329/Red-Ed-feels-heat-torture-Labour-leader-rocked-revolt-MPs-refuses-inquiry-led-judge.html

Red Ed feels the heat over torture: Labour leader rocked by revolt from his own MPs as he refuses to back an inquiry led by a judge

Labour high command insists Westminster committee should investigate

But string of MPs say only a judge's probe can clear up torture questions

Miliband's brother David could be called to give evidence to any inquiry

He is accused of trying to cover up UK's part in CIA wrongdoing

Other Labour figures facing questions are Jack Straw and Tony Blair

Blair broke cover yesterday to say he had never condoned torture

Ed Miliband was facing a backbench revolt last night over Labour’s failure to support a judge-led inquiry into British complicity in torture.

The party’s high command still insists a Westminster committee should investigate even though it presided over an alleged whitewash in the extraordinary rendition affair.

A string of Mr Miliband’s MPs yesterday declared that disturbing questions raised by a US Senate report on the barbaric treatment of detainees by the CIA should be answered once and for all. Paul Flynn, David Winnick and Yasmin Qureshi all said only a judge-led process would do.

His brother David could even be called to give evidence to any inquiry. As foreign secretary from 2007 to 2010, he is accused of trying to cover up Britain’s involvement in CIA wrongdoing.

Good post hays.

Yep Cyners in a terrible mood yesterday, my sincere apologies i think it may have been my sugar levels.

Trouble is you dont realise it until you go back over it the next day.

Her indoors was getting on my tits with this community centre schedule and my mother was ringing me up all day wanting this that and the other fetched.

And then my brother smashes his car and I have to go 80 miles to get him.

Woke up this morning physicaly and mentaly exhausted.

My sincere apologies again.

Russia's attempt to stop the Rouble slide doesn't seem to be working. They raised interest rates to 17% at 1 am in the morning. The Rouble rallied 9% quite quickly. Then it fell back and is now 3% under the rate before the interest rate rise.

I guess the next thing they may try is to impose currency exchange controls. They are suffering currency flight and have almost no access to world capital markets due to sanctions and worries over default. The Rouble is now sitting on the same rate as it was before it defaulted in 1998. They have already said they will be in recession very soon and their economy may shrink by as much as 5%.

Hays they are in the s-it for sure, and it serves them right.

Good call.

Have they asked Lamont what to do?

Jonathan Ferro ‏@FerroTV 3minutes ago
Ruble -32% against the dollar in just three days. Epic collapse.

Stan, Lamont went missing so nobody could have asked the mole head.

The CIA report should never have been published in the first place. Of course people from both the Conservative party and the Labour party either knew, or had strong suspicions about what was going on. We are dealing with terrorists for God's sake - this isn't handbags at ten paces. Let them get on with it and if the present torture methods aren't working then find some that do work. I personally find it far more upsetting that our armed forces were/are sent to fight these nutters without adequate equipment.

A Moscow resident has a wrist watch for sale which I have been searching for on the Internet for months and which is no longer in production.

The seller describes it as being 'like new' and is complete with the original paperwork and box.

I am burning with desire to buy it.

BUT

It isn't an eBay sale and PayPal hasn't been mentioned as a payment method. This is a pity because my PayPal payment deal is that they pay and then I get the money deducted 14 days later - providing the goods have been delivered and are OK.

I wouldn't be against putting the money for it in some kind of escrow account, to be released on my say so after delivery and my safe receipt. To complicate matters even further the sale is in Russian Rubles.

Other than, "Are you joking? Never trust a Russian! Don't do it! Move on with the rest of your life and keep looking!", has anyone got any ideas?

Maybe the guy knows Obramovich and one of his hoppo's could courier it back to the UK and then I could collect it from one of the Obramovich mansions or whatever?

Anyhow, just a thought. Hmmm? :-)

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh id be very careful exec. Might find this same person as 200 up for sale. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And then, dealing with a Russian, there's the risk at a later date I might get my throat cut and my organs stolen too. Or maybe even a radioactive prick from an umbrella?

But is there a way.....?

I would be very worried about my organs if I was you Exec, I believe some Russians are quite partial to organs at Christmas!