Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

The Labour party had terrible trouble with militant unions all through the 50s and 60s. Barbara Castle, the Labour Employment minister published in 1969 a white paper titled 'In place of strife'. It was an attempt to curb union power by new laws. In the end the Labour party chickened out and it was not passed into legislation. It wasn't until Thatcher that the necessary laws were passed. It is worthy of note that Labour has never repealed a single union laws passed under Maggie's times.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_Place_of_Strife

In Place of Strife (Cmnd 3888) was a UK Government white paper written in 1969.[1] It was a proposed act to use the law to reduce the power of trade unions in the United Kingdom, but was never passed into law.[1] The title of the paper was a reworking of the title of Nye Bevan's book In Place of Fear.

Amongst its numerous proposals were plans to force unions to call a ballot before a strike was held and establishment of an Industrial Board to enforce settlements in industrial disputes. The Labour Cabinet of the Prime Minister, Harold Wilson, was divided over the issue.[1] The proposals had been drafted in secret by Wilson and Castle.[2] Divisions quickly appeared within the Cabinet when the proposals were presented, with the opposition led by James Callaghan.[2] A settlement was eventually reached with the Trades Union Congress whereby the proposals were dropped.[1]

Hays we had 8 million unemployed under Thatcher. Those were the official figures just short actually of 8 million.

Dont tell people here how bad the Unions were when Thatcher created the problem then, and the subsequent Poll Tax riots and its social cost.

Thatcher also brought in Incapacity Benefit to try and fool the public that 4 million were unemployed not double that figure.

Todays problems with Welfare stem back to Maggie Thatcher, of that there is no doubt.

LABOUR LEAD INCREASES TO 5 POINTS.....


ICM/Guardian – CON 28, LAB 33, LDEM 14, UKIP 14, GRN 5

I said Milly had a brilliant PMQs.

Labour now have the advantage over xmas and the new Year.

Interestingly Lib Dems again gaining support and taking votes from the Tories.

GF,

I agree that Miliband had a very good PMQs.

Doesn't Cameron go red in the face and bluster when he tells porkies.

The public think more and more he is a hollow yesterday's man.

certainly this week Fred, he was caught on the hop.

Not only that the BBC s Andrew Neil and co pointed out that osbourne had moved the goalposts on the deficit sneekily as usual so now its takes into account % wise GDP whereas before he used it as a standtill measure............but get this the 2 Eds have realised this and the economy dabate isnt the one trick poney it once was for the Tories.

I'm so glad Fred and gf like pictures of George Osborne as they are going to be seeing a lot more of him when the Conservatives win the next GE and he is Chancellor for another term.

George, George, George ! :-))

By Rosa Prince, Online Political Editor
12:09PM GMT 18 Dec 2014
Cherie Blair’s father says suggestion Labour Leader could become Prime Minister is ‘play school

Tony Booth, the veteran actor and father of Cherie Blair, has bluntly dismissed the idea that Ed Miliband could become prime minister.

In an interview with Newsweek, Tony Blair’s father-in-law laughed off the suggestion that Labour could win the General Election under their current leader, saying “'In your f****** dreams. This is not play school.'”

According to the Daily Mail, the 83-year-old said that Labour would have more chance at on polling day in May if Mr Blair made a surprise return to power.

He said: “Funnily enough, I think he might have an outside chance. “Because people would say: ‘Well, at least he is the devil we know.’

“And with Miliband, you find yourself thinking, ‘This is a good kid, but when is he going to get into long pants? Are we just putting him up as a dummy until we find the right person?’”

Mr Booth also said that it was time for Labour to choose a woman for a leader, and named Barbara Castle, who was employment secretary under Harold Wilson, as a role model.

“I hope that, lurking somewhere in the Labour ranks, is a female politician who will emerge and speak the truth," he said.

“The one thing the Tories really don't like is a nanny. Nannies frighten them. We need somebody in the mould of Barbara Castle.”

The 83-year-old, best known for his role in the 1960s comedy Till Death Do Us Part, is said to be suffering from dementia, but was described by his interviewer, Robert Chalmers, as “more coherent than most serving MPs I have met.”

DB4,

"The 83-year-old, best known for his role in the 1960s comedy Till Death Do Us Part, is said to be suffering from dementia, but was described by his interviewer, Robert Chalmers, as “more coherent than most serving MPs I have met.”"

He sounds like a typical new member for the CON Party!

You should sign him up quickly!

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GF

But that is a nice lead.

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LABOUR LEAD INCREASES TO 5 POINTS.....


ICM/Guardian – CON 28, LAB 33, LDEM 14, UKIP 14, GRN 5

Labour now have the advantage over xmas and the new Year.

is that because they're turkeys or will be goosed or stuffed?

No because they are not the SLEAZY PARTY.

Tory sleaze sleaze sleaze sleaze sleaze sleaze.

Tried it on again with the deficit this week but caught out good and proper.

Latest YouGov poll says Labour & Conservatives tied at 33%, LibDem 8%, UKIP 14%.
Whatever the latest polls say only a miniscule percentage think that Miliband would make a good PM.

All over the main TV News today, MET CLOSING IN on the Tory peodo ring.

Ohhhhhh dear and just months before a General Election.

Now the public will TAKE NOTICE of this even if they couldnt give a hoot at the Deficit.

Conservatives and Labour tied

Latest YouGov / The Sun results 17th December -

Con 33%, Lab 33%, LD 8%, UKIP 14%;

Ode to Miliband mouse;

Wee, sleekit, cow'rin, tim'rous beastie,
O, what a panic's in thy breastie

Latest Ipsos More poll shows Conservatives 3 points ahead

CON 32 (nc); LAB 29 (nc); LIB DEM 9 (nc); UKIP 13 (-1); GREEN 9 (+2)

Approval ratings for Nigel Farage at lowest ever level

No above is wrong , its being amended. Seemingly they have messed Scottish votes up Hays.

Thats the IPSOS poll not Nigel Farage Poll.