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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

goldfinger - 18 Dec 2014 12:38 - 53251 of 81564

Interestingly Lib Dems again gaining support and taking votes from the Tories.

Fred1new - 18 Dec 2014 13:09 - 53252 of 81564

GF,

I agree that Miliband had a very good PMQs.

Doesn't Cameron go red in the face and bluster when he tells porkies.

The public think more and more he is a hollow yesterday's man.

goldfinger - 18 Dec 2014 13:19 - 53253 of 81564

certainly this week Fred, he was caught on the hop.

Not only that the BBC s Andrew Neil and co pointed out that osbourne had moved the goalposts on the deficit sneekily as usual so now its takes into account % wise GDP whereas before he used it as a standtill measure............but get this the 2 Eds have realised this and the economy dabate isnt the one trick poney it once was for the Tories.

doodlebug4 - 18 Dec 2014 13:19 - 53254 of 81564

I'm so glad Fred and gf like pictures of George Osborne as they are going to be seeing a lot more of him when the Conservatives win the next GE and he is Chancellor for another term.

George, George, George ! :-))

doodlebug4 - 18 Dec 2014 13:22 - 53255 of 81564

By Rosa Prince, Online Political Editor
12:09PM GMT 18 Dec 2014
Cherie Blair’s father says suggestion Labour Leader could become Prime Minister is ‘play school

Tony Booth, the veteran actor and father of Cherie Blair, has bluntly dismissed the idea that Ed Miliband could become prime minister.

In an interview with Newsweek, Tony Blair’s father-in-law laughed off the suggestion that Labour could win the General Election under their current leader, saying “'In your f****** dreams. This is not play school.'”

According to the Daily Mail, the 83-year-old said that Labour would have more chance at on polling day in May if Mr Blair made a surprise return to power.

He said: “Funnily enough, I think he might have an outside chance. “Because people would say: ‘Well, at least he is the devil we know.’

“And with Miliband, you find yourself thinking, ‘This is a good kid, but when is he going to get into long pants? Are we just putting him up as a dummy until we find the right person?’”


Mr Booth also said that it was time for Labour to choose a woman for a leader, and named Barbara Castle, who was employment secretary under Harold Wilson, as a role model.

“I hope that, lurking somewhere in the Labour ranks, is a female politician who will emerge and speak the truth," he said.

“The one thing the Tories really don't like is a nanny. Nannies frighten them. We need somebody in the mould of Barbara Castle.”

The 83-year-old, best known for his role in the 1960s comedy Till Death Do Us Part, is said to be suffering from dementia, but was described by his interviewer, Robert Chalmers, as “more coherent than most serving MPs I have met.”

Fred1new - 18 Dec 2014 13:52 - 53256 of 81564

DB4,

"The 83-year-old, best known for his role in the 1960s comedy Till Death Do Us Part, is said to be suffering from dementia, but was described by his interviewer, Robert Chalmers, as “more coherent than most serving MPs I have met.”"

He sounds like a typical new member for the CON Party!

You should sign him up quickly!

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GF

But that is a nice lead.

goldfinger Send an email to goldfinger View goldfinger's profile - 18 Dec 2014 12:36 - 53252 of 53259

LABOUR LEAD INCREASES TO 5 POINTS.....


ICM/Guardian – CON 28, LAB 33, LDEM 14, UKIP 14, GRN 5



cynic - 18 Dec 2014 14:04 - 53257 of 81564

Labour now have the advantage over xmas and the new Year.

is that because they're turkeys or will be goosed or stuffed?

goldfinger - 18 Dec 2014 14:11 - 53258 of 81564

No because they are not the SLEAZY PARTY.

Tory sleaze sleaze sleaze sleaze sleaze sleaze.

Tried it on again with the deficit this week but caught out good and proper.

doodlebug4 - 18 Dec 2014 14:11 - 53259 of 81564

Latest YouGov poll says Labour & Conservatives tied at 33%, LibDem 8%, UKIP 14%.
Whatever the latest polls say only a miniscule percentage think that Miliband would make a good PM.

goldfinger - 18 Dec 2014 14:13 - 53260 of 81564

All over the main TV News today, MET CLOSING IN on the Tory peodo ring.

Ohhhhhh dear and just months before a General Election.

Now the public will TAKE NOTICE of this even if they couldnt give a hoot at the Deficit.

Haystack - 18 Dec 2014 14:14 - 53261 of 81564

Conservatives and Labour tied

Latest YouGov / The Sun results 17th December -

Con 33%, Lab 33%, LD 8%, UKIP 14%;

doodlebug4 - 18 Dec 2014 14:19 - 53262 of 81564

Ode to Miliband mouse;

Wee, sleekit, cow'rin, tim'rous beastie,
O, what a panic's in thy breastie

Haystack - 18 Dec 2014 14:21 - 53263 of 81564

Latest Ipsos More poll shows Conservatives 3 points ahead

CON 32 (nc); LAB 29 (nc); LIB DEM 9 (nc); UKIP 13 (-1); GREEN 9 (+2)

Haystack - 18 Dec 2014 14:24 - 53264 of 81564

Approval ratings for Nigel Farage at lowest ever level

goldfinger - 18 Dec 2014 14:26 - 53265 of 81564

No above is wrong , its being amended. Seemingly they have messed Scottish votes up Hays.

goldfinger - 18 Dec 2014 14:27 - 53266 of 81564

Thats the IPSOS poll not Nigel Farage Poll.

doodlebug4 - 18 Dec 2014 14:28 - 53267 of 81564

Scottish votes = Labour minus 41 seats!

goldfinger - 18 Dec 2014 14:29 - 53268 of 81564

Next post please dont read if offended by bad language.

Haystack - 18 Dec 2014 14:29 - 53269 of 81564

It was straight from the Ipsos Mori site.

If the Scottish figures are wring then it could be even worse for Milibland.

goldfinger - 18 Dec 2014 14:30 - 53270 of 81564

Custard Creams Are Cheaper Than Cous Cous, But You Can’t Expect A Fucking Baroness To Know That
Posted on December 12, 2014 by johnny void

Anyone who claims that healthy food is a cheaper option has clearly never enjoyed the dubious nutitional delights of a pack of Everyday Value Custard Creams (35p, 1,972 calories).

They’ve also probably never been to a supermarket. Or at least never been to a supermarket with less than a tenner to last until the end of the week and two kids to feed. This hasn’t stopped a string of pompous twats from appearing in the media this week and telling us how much better they would be at being poor than the plebs using foodbanks.

The nearest supermartet, who shall remain nameless because they are bastards, sells a kilo of value oats for 75p. This means you can, just about, make a large bowl of porridge for 4p, as Baroness Jenkins claimed at the launch of this week’s food bank report – although that’s porridge with water and ignores the cost of cooking it. But it is bollocks that a bowl of sugary cereal will cost 25p as she also suggested. A well known national discount retailer are currently knocking out 450g boxes of Sugar Puffs for a quid, which works out at just under 7p a serving. A cheaper option to this would be supermarket value Rice Snaps, which are 10% sugar but come in at under 5p a bowl. Value cornflakes are even cheaper at around tuppence per bowl.

The cheapest source of meat protein I could find in the supermarket this morning was a tin of value meatballs in tomato sauce for 40p, which works out about £1.06 a kilo. Despite the sauce this still probably beats the price of the lowest cost unprocessed meat alternative, which is raw pigs liver for £1.50 per kilo. According to their website this store does packs of cooking bacon for about 80p, or £1.60/kg, although there was no sign of them today with the cheapest bacon at £3.79/kg. Frozen value chicken portions also come in quite cheap at £1.75/kg, as do chicken legs at a similar price, but much of that weight will be bone. In terms of bang for your buck, or more correctly calories, then value chicken nuggets, at 72p a bag, or £2.25/kg are probably a more economical buy. As are chicken burgers (£2.13/kg) and value sausages at £1.44/kg. Avoiding meat altogether will not save you any money. Vege-sausages of all types are a lot more expensive than the value range meat alternative whilst a kilo of lentils will set you back £1.80.

The humble carrot or a white cabbage can both be bought for 60p/kg. Onions cost about the same, but the price of veg rises steeply after that jumping to £1.47/kg for loose broccoli, the next cheapest source of fresh green veg.

Carrots are also one of the cheapest forms of tinned veg costing 19p a can, although you only get a measly 300g. In contrast 420g of value baked beans are 24p, competing with a 300g tin of value mushy peas (16p) as the cheapest form of vegetable the local supermarket sells. Cheaper still is a 420g tin of value spaghetti at 20p. Stick that on a few slices of economy range white sliced bread and you’ve got dinner for two kids for about 30p, or the price of an apple.

This is far cheaper than the recipes that the Daily Telegraph helpfully published this week teaching us all how to make meals for 50p a portion. One of those meals was a vegetarian chilli – which would actually cost over £2 for a single person because you can’t buy an eighth of a tin of chick peas. This chilli, whilst undoubtebly nutritious, only contains about 250 calories. Half a deep pan cheese value pizza provides almost twice that amount and costs the same price. According to the NHS an 11/12 year old child needs around 2000 calories a day. It would probably be healthier and cheaper to feed them a pizza and a vitamin pill for dinner than the Daily Telegraph’s suggestion.

As for afters, well you can usually pick up a banana for just short of 20p, if you really want to be the kind of person who gives their kid a banana for pudding. A far lower cost option would be a value chocolate mousse for 4 and a half pence.

These are not isolated examples, everywhere you look it is the same. A litre of pure apple juice is 65p, two litres of own brand coke is 55p. 14 tiny lunchbox size packs of raisins costs £1.89, whilst a multipack of 12 bags of crisps is 66p. The cheapest mild chedder is priced at £5.40/kg whilst processed cheese slices come out at £3.53/kg.

One of the reasons for the constant sneering at those using food banks for not being able to cook is that there is little understanding of how poor some people actually are. People with nothing will buy a pack of biscuits because it’s the only thing they can afford. Someone with a quid left on a prepay meter cannot afford to risk turning on the hob to make porridge because that might mean the lights go out that night.

Unless you’ve been that poor you just won’t see how much cheaper it is to buy shit food. You won’t notice that pound shops do big boxes of sugary cereals for a quid, or that value chicken nuggets are a cheaper source of protein than lentils. And that’s okay, It doesn’t make you a bad person, just lucky. But it does mean you should shut the fuck up about things you know nothing about.

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