Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?

If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?

Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?

What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?

cynic resorting to abuse does not strengthen your argument, please be a little more adult.

i could have phrased it differently, but i deliberately chose not to and the sentiment would have been the same in any case

cynic we are sorry we struck a nerve and hope you recover soon.

G and M,

Just in case you missed this:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7831424.stm

I personally don't think Gaza is yesterdays news. I think this 'war' will be raging long after i'm pushing up daisies and i'm not that old!

Considering it will be affecting me for the rest of my life, I remain interested in it.

Carry on cynic but if the truth be told then truth is generally a proven fact. I understand your version of truth but I don't consider myself knowing anwhere near the truth. Think that makes sense, Struth time for a drink.

along those lines, but nuff said - lol! ..... i started trying to point out merely that truth is often or even usually as perceived, which is ceratinly not the same as actuality - whatever that may be

by the way, i initially thought halifax was prattling about Gazza and not Gaza!

One thing that stands out from your latest link, Fred, is the, noticeably lacking credentials of any of those who are claiming fact Ging, HRW etc. The medical staff on the other hand only consider what they see to be one option of many.

cynic, I feel such a fool, theres me waffling about gaza when the real story is gazza. :)

cynic trying to point out the stupidity of helping to perpetuate this pointless conflict is not "prattling", eventually common sense will prevail and the israelis and palestinians will be obliged to settle. Keep taking the tablets!

yawn!

Cynic, aw bless are you tired?
im sure Fred will tuck you in and give you a goodnight kiss if you ask nicely,
If he can drag himself away from the crappy bbc news that is,

sure am .... abused myself last night!

Halifax, You are writing common sense. Many on this board are unable to or don't want to recognise it.

Rather than sensible rebuttals they find it necessary to become abusive.



Suggest viewing listening the whole of below

http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/politics/international_politics/when+are+military+bombs+illegal/2909122

and making you own deductions.

Fred:

You said Rather than sensible rebuttals they find it necessary to become abusive.

You have had thousands of words of sensible rebuttals but you continue to spout your biased, blinkered and prejudiced view of events in Gaza.

It's hardly surprising if some people lose the rag with you. But then, I strongly suspect that that's what turns you on. It is your raison d'etre.

The situation in the middle east cannot be dismissed as simply a land dispute. For the Palestinians it's a land dispute, for israelis it's survival.

Agree with Halifax - eventually this will have to be settled by debate. In the meantime I have to agree with a statement Netanyahu made a few years back:

"If the Palestinians abandoned their arms there would be no more bloodshed. If the Israelis abandoned their arms there would be no more Israel."

from memory, netanyahu was pretty right wing (bellicose), but no matter ..... certainly if israel abandoned its settlements on west bank as instructed by un, then a lot of the heat would be taken out of the whole scenario.

and of course, if the politicians on all (not just both!) sides had a will to find a sensible and realistic solution for long term peace, then no doubt it could be found ..... but then of course, if pigs had wings

:

What really is behind the numbers reported on the number of civilian casualties in the Gaza Strip? Italian newspaper Corriere Della Sera reported Thursday that a doctor working in Gaza's Shifa Hospital claimed that Hamas has intentionally inflated the number of casualties resulting from Israel's Operation Cast Lead.

"The number of deceased stands at no more than 500 to 600. Most of them are youths between the ages of 17 to 23 who were recruited to the ranks of Hamas, who sent them to the slaughter," according to the newspaper article....

A Tal al-Hawa resident told the newspaper's reporter, "Armed Hamas men sought out a good position for provoking the Israelis. There were mostly teenagers, aged 16 or 17, and armed. They couldn't do a thing against a tank or a jet. They knew they are much weaker, but they fired at our houses so that they could blame Israel for war crimes."

The reporter for the Italian newspaper also quoted reporters in the Strip who told of Hamas' exaggerated figures, "We have already said to Hamas commanders why do you insist on inflating the number of victims?"

These same reporters mentioned that the truth that will come out is likely to be similar to what occurred in Operation Defensive Shield in Jenin. "Then, there was first talk of 1,500 deaths. But then it turned out that there were only 54, 45 of which were armed men," the Palestinian reporters told the Italian newspaper.

for sure hamas will inflate the figures, but that is standard and has been practiced for centuries

... but still you like to quote them.

not i ..... you and i just happen to disagree on how we interpret the bits we read and see on tv ..... the stuff sivad quotes above i discard out of hand, though on the other hand, i am far from convinced that israel did not use white phosphorus bombs - jury's out on that

Cynic - as I understand it there is already an investigation underway on the phosphorous allegation. The Israeli public will be outraged if it's true.