Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

So, who is going to do a deal with ukip?

GF,

P 53343


"Wonder if Hays will be called to give evidence??????????????????"

Well he certainly seems to have known and knows everybody in the higher echelons of the relevant institution.

How was he earning his living then, or was he?

MAx.

Nobody.

They are toxic medium term and long term.

No one will do a deal with UKIP. Apart from anything, they won't have enough seats to make a deal with.

What an impending mess.

I am beginning to think this is a good election to lose.

Fred, did you get that e-mail I sent you last night?

Today is the day election spending rules kick in and the campaign for 2015 officially begins. Here are the key dates for your diary:

December 19: Long campaign begins. Candidate spending limited to £30,700, plus 9p per voter in county (rural) constituencies, and 6p per voter in borough (urban) constituencies.

January 5: House returns from Christmas recess.

February 12-23: February recess.

March 18: George Osborne delivers the final budget of the parliament. He only has a few working days to get it through before…

March 30: Parliament dissolves. Short campaign begins. Spending restrictions tightened to £8,700, plus 9p per voter in county constituencies and 6p per voter in borough constituencies.

May 7: Election day.

138 days to go…

GF,

I have done.

And replied.

Will look a little later.

Thank you.

Fred.

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Max,

You missed this.

Wait for Haze's explanation of another tory failure.

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NIGEL FARAGE

Thursday 18 December 2014
Surprise, surprise: tens of thousands of illegal immigrants have 'dropped off' the Home Office’s radar
This is exactly what Ukip has been warning about for a very long time

The past two weeks have seen an awful lot of information related to the Home Office and immigration, the likes of which should have been on every front page of every national newspaper.
On 4 December, we learned that Theresa May’s flagship scheme to deport foreign criminals has been an abject failure, and that this government has managed to exclude just two offenders from the United Kingdom. The target at the outset was 62. That is a success rate of a pathetic 3.2 per cent.

Then it was revealed that at least 223,600 illegal immigrants had “dropped off” the Home Office’s radar, and that “unopened boxes” and “misplaced files” showed that enough people to fill a city the size of Southampton are in this country, without permission, and all because of a failure of this Home Secretary to get a grip on what she inherited from the last establishment political party.

Yesterday, the European Court of Justice declared that Britain cannot stop people from non-EU countries from entering the UK via family connections, even if they don’t have a visa. Mr Cameron of course “disagreed” with the ruling, but as we well know by now – it doesn’t mean a thing. He’s been wagging his limp finger about the EU for a while now, but even Francois Hollande has managed to rebuke him this week over his baseless “renegotiation” plan. Quelle surprise.

READ MORE:
WE ARE BEING LIED TO ABOUT IMMIGRATION
NET ANNUAL MIGRATION SOARS TO MORE THAN QUARTER OF MILLION

By now, Independent readers should know that I’m a shy kind of bloke. Far be it from me to repeatedly say, “I told you so,” but the truth of the matter is that Ukip has been warning about all these sorts of things for years. And we’ve been beaten back, called bigots, racists, fruitcakes, swivel-eyed loons and more. And yet, all that we have warned about has come to pass.

Now it would be very easy to make a judgment there: “Ukip is anti-immigration” is a lazy and fundamentally incorrect quip that we hear quite a lot. But actually, Ukip’s policy proposals on migration would simply reduce net migration to Britain to the numbers we as a country experienced in the 1990s – the tens of thousands. We wouldn’t stop it. Ukipers understand that the British labour market has jobs that can and are filled by migrant workers, and that’s natural.

Haze,

Why has the CON Party £70 million cash in its coffers (donnations from mates)?


The only reason I can see is to pervert the course of democracy.

GF,

Was this the article you refer to:

I wonder if Haze could comment as he seems to know everybody in "higher" office and their wheeling and dealings!

Meet the man Leon Brittan handed the lost VIP paedophile dossier to
03
Thursday
Jul 2014
In 1983, when he was Home Secretary, Leon Brittan was handed a dossier by Tory MP Geoffrey Dickens which included details of a VIP paedophile ring.

The file of course – we now know – then mysteriously went missing after Brittan said he “handed it to his officials” at the Home Office.

So who would those officials be?

Well, Brittan has already confirmed that the official who was with him at the meeting when he was handed the dossier was his private secretary.

And who was Brittan’s private secretary at the time of the meeting?

Sir Brian Cubbon.

Sir Brian – although a former high ranking civil servant – has close links to MI5 and MI6.

In this document from 1999, Sir Brian is listed as a director of an MI6 front company called Hakluyt & Company.

And Sir Brian is also the official who was responsible for giving MI5 permission to tap the phones of leading CND activists in the 1980s.

And what is the relevance of the spooks involvement in the missing dossier?

Well, this is not the first time a VIP paedophile dossier has gone missing.

In the 1970s a special branch officer with Lancashire Police said a “thick” police dossier full of allegations from boys claiming they had been abused by Sir Cyril Smith went missing after an officer from MI5 told him it needed to be sent to MI5 headquarters in London.

It’s looking increasingly likely that VIP paedophiles – particularly those in Westminster – are being protected by MI5.

GF,

I have difficulties accessing the site.


http://www.theduckshoot.com/was-leon-brittan-arrested-on-paedophile-charges/

But, I am sure, that Haze will be able to evaluate for us!

3,000 migrants a month caught trying to enter Britain

Britain is becoming one of most 'attractive' countries in the World for illegal immigrants, experts warn as Home Office reveals that almost 100 stowaways are being caught a day



By Steven Swinford, Senior Political Correspondent

10:00PM GMT 18 Dec 2014



The number of times migrants have been caught trying to enter Britain illegally has almost quadrupled over the past three years and reached nearly 3,000 a month, according to official figures.


The Home Office on Thursday disclosed that 11,920 entry attempts were detected at Calais and British ports in the first four months of this year alone – equivalent to almost 100 a day.


Migration experts said that Britain is one of the most "attractive" destinations for migrants in the World and suggested that many more illegal immigrants are likely to have successfully made it into Britain.


The figures were published after John Vine, the chief inspector of borders, warned that the Home Office is failing "get the basics right" on immigration in the wake of a series of damning reports.



More: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/11302640/3000-migrants-a-month-caught-trying-to-enter-Britain.html



Quote:

"Experts said that migrants were attracted by Britain's unregulated labour market, the ability to get free health care on the NHS and relatively generous welfare system. "

Max,

I suggest you examine the ease at which you can obtain "welfare benefits".

Personally, I would not be unhappy reading the obituary of IDS. Hanging is too good for him.

(It is some of the things which are being done, but the glee and manner this atrocious government is doing them. The same abusive party chucking their authority around without respect for others. Now what does that remind me of "with missing" files.)

Thats the one Fred.

Yes your comments please Hays on this link...............

http://www.theduckshoot.com/was-leon-brittan-arrested-on-paedophile-charges/


especially on Mrs Thatcher.

Fred.

I have no idea how hard or not it is to get benefits, not being in receipt of same.

However, you have to look at the benefits bill, which keeps getting bigger year on year when supposedly there has never been so many people in employment.


Something doesent add up.

It was Thatcher and the Tories who created Incapacity Benefit.

Tony Newton the health secretary in them days brought in SELF DECLARATIONin other words working class chaps who fancied a week or twos holiday walked down to there GPs filled in a form to say they had a cold signed it and received 2 weeks benefit. No need to see doctor.

And theres IDS blaming Labour for the legacy.

LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LO LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

Max its IN WORK benefits ie, tax credits and Housing Benefit that are subsidising low pay employers.

And at the other end no caps on Private Landlords charging pathetic rates of rent.

Hays Hays Hays Hays Hays

YOUGOV poll the........ Tories mouthpiece..............

Labour lead at 5

Latest YouGov / The Sun results 18th December - Con 30%, Lab 35%, LD 6%, UKIP 16%;

Ground control to Fred - DM says EM will never make PM.

Latest MORI poll and Ashcroft constituency polling
18 DEC 2014
Today we’ve the final Ipsos MORI monthly poll of 2014 and the last 2014 batch of Lord Ashcroft’s constituency polling (the keenly awaited Scottish marginals polling is taking place next year).
MORI’s monthly poll has topline figures of CON 32%(nc), LAB 29%(nc), LDEM 9%(nc), UKIP 13%(-1), GRN 9%(+2). The Conservatives are three points ahead, but as ever it’s the trend that counts and there is no difference from last month for the main parties here. Note the Greens though – nine points is another new record high for them.