Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Max its IN WORK benefits ie, tax credits and Housing Benefit that are subsidising low pay employers.

And at the other end no caps on Private Landlords charging pathetic rates of rent.

Hays Hays Hays Hays Hays

YOUGOV poll the........ Tories mouthpiece..............

Labour lead at 5

Latest YouGov / The Sun results 18th December - Con 30%, Lab 35%, LD 6%, UKIP 16%;

Ground control to Fred - DM says EM will never make PM.

Latest MORI poll and Ashcroft constituency polling
18 DEC 2014
Today we’ve the final Ipsos MORI monthly poll of 2014 and the last 2014 batch of Lord Ashcroft’s constituency polling (the keenly awaited Scottish marginals polling is taking place next year).
MORI’s monthly poll has topline figures of CON 32%(nc), LAB 29%(nc), LDEM 9%(nc), UKIP 13%(-1), GRN 9%(+2). The Conservatives are three points ahead, but as ever it’s the trend that counts and there is no difference from last month for the main parties here. Note the Greens though – nine points is another new record high for them.

DB,

Then you should put your skirt on the prediction!

Labour lead at 5

Latest YouGov / The Sun results 18th December - Con 30%, Lab 35%, LD 6%, UKIP 16%;

Alex Salmond: SNP MPs could start voting on English-only laws to put Ed Miliband in Number 10

Former First Minister controversially suggests SNP could flout convention and start influencing English laws in move that would increase Nationalists' power in hung parliament




Alex Salmond has been "fuelling vitriol", says Nigel Farage Photo: PA



By Ben Riley-Smith, Political Correspondent

8:04AM GMT 19 Dec 2014

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/SNP/11302973/Alex-Salmond-SNP-MPs-could-start-voting-on-English-only-laws-to-put-Ed-Miliband-in-Number-10.html



Former SNP leader Alex Salmond has suggested the party's MPs could flout convention and start voting on English-only legislation to help get Ed Miliband into Number 10 at the next election.


The former First Minister, who is running for Westminster, told The Independent his party could start influencing English laws on a "vote by vote" basis to prop up a minority Labour government.


The suggestion will infuriate Tory politicians by escalating the so-called West Lothian Question, which refers to the unfairness of Scottish MPs voting on English-only issues.


The call is significant as with the Conservatives neck-and-neck in the polls with Labour another hung Parliament looks likely, meaning the SNP could possibly hold the balance of power.


The Nationalists have enjoyed a surge of support in recent months despite losing the Scottish independence referendum as Labour's support north of the border collapses, meaning they could have dozens of new MPs come next May.


Mr Salmond and other SNP leaders have ruled out doing any kind of deal with the Conservatives in post-election negotiations, but have left the door open to sorting some kind of arrangement with Labour.

Discussing the next election in an interview, Mr Salmond said he would bet on the next parliament being "balanced" and added: "That’s an opportunity to have delivered to Scotland what we have been promised" - a reference to the package of new powers which has been agreed for Holyrood.

However he then controversially suggested SNP MPs could start voting on English-only laws on a "vote by vote" basis to prop-up Mr Miliband as Prime Minister in a move that would increase the Nationalists' influence over Labour.

The suggestion comes just days after the Conservatives proposed giving English MPs a veto over legislation only affecting English constituents in what would be a major constitutional change.


The warning that the SNP could start voting on English laws to increase its influence after the election is likely to add pressure on Mr Miliband to go further on English devolution after the Labour leader failed to back William Hague's proposals.

Mr Salmond said David Cameron would be punished by the electorate for bringing up English devolution the morning after Scotland voted to stay in the UK by 55 per cent to 45 per cent.

"We won’t give succour, help, assistance to the Conservative Party and the reason is David Cameron waltzing out of Downing Street and showing his true face the morning after the referendum," he said.

Well if Conservative supporters needed any incentive to go out and vote, the prospect of a Labour/SNP deal would surely be it. Nicola Sturgeon in a liaison with Ed. if you lefties think Theresa May is a nightmare then just wait until Nicola starts to sharpen her claws! :-)

Mr Salmond said David Cameron would be punished by the electorate for bringing up English devolution the morning after Scotland voted to stay in the UK by 55 per cent to 45 per cent.

"We won’t give succour, help, assistance to the Conservative Party and the reason is David Cameron waltzing out of Downing Street and showing his true face the morning after the referendum," he said.

Well said Alex, stop the Tory Cheats in there tracks.

I see in another sleasy move the Tories getting through legislation late yesterday to pay for another GE.

Devious Dave and his boys at there devious best.

Only trouble is Labour will win and govern with the SNP.

And when results for the Tory peodos surface the Tory party will become a small fringe party.

The biggest mistake was allowing devolution for what was really a region of England and then allowing it to have a referendum. I have never liked the concept of the UK or Great Britain. It is all England.

Nice chart...

the European Union Court decided that when it comes to employment, obesity can be considered a disability that must be accommodated just like being blind or being deaf must be accommodated. Bigger chairs, parking spots closer to doors, etc.

So one can see the writing on the wall now. This court decision of “obesity is a disability” was narrowly limited to workplace employment but its only a small leap before it is more widely applied. Schools that have to have larger seats and provide mobility carts for obese teens. Airlines who have to give free first class seats to obese people who cant fit in those skinny coach seats. So to get in that coveted first class cabin in the airplane all you have to do is eat a lot of pizza? Sign me up!

I blame a lot of obesity on Food Banks , poor people are getting fatter.

sticky - as you know, i only look at the political nonsense on this thread in a very desultory way
however, it has been quite entertaining to see how your own stance has tended to shift with the wind
we'll leave aside that you claimed to have been a lifelong and active conservative member and contributor until the last year or maybe two ..... interesting that having decided you despise the present bunch and that is the only reason you switched allegiance, you now also loudly castigate earlier tory gov'ts .... somewhat inconsistent i would have thought

anyway, until very recently indeed, you not only proclaimed from the rooftops about how a labour working majority was a hot racing certainty - not nearly as forthright on that now are you - but you also regularly held up the ashroft polls as being the great and true indicator
strange you haven't been mentioning those of late either .... why would that be?


happy christmas old chap, though i'm sure we'll have a good number mutual posts before that day :-)

perhaps the rumour that foodbanks predominantly offer biscuits, cakes, crisps and other sweet and fatty foods has an element of truth then :-)

LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

Hils you obviously havent seen

1. YOUGOV poll......... labour 5 points in front this morning

2. Ex Tory Cabinet ministers in peodo ring investigations. Thatcher said to have known all about it.

Remind us all again, Cyners, how much did Fishfinger donate to the Tories?

£100k grand wasn't it?

:o)

sticky .... not mentioning the ashcroft poll? ..... why would that be?

btw, you may like to have a peek at post 53379

Soup kitchens much more healthy