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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

grannyboy - 16 Sep 2016 07:56 - 5343 of 12628

I've got the video on loop...;D

Fred1new - 16 Sep 2016 08:40 - 5344 of 12628

Is it above the bed.

jimmy b - 16 Sep 2016 08:58 - 5345 of 12628

Fred1new - 15 Sep 2016 18:17 - 5341 of 5345

Hey, Dumbo have they let you out again?

I wouldn't want to embarrass myself.

Without looking it up who is the Italian or Portuguese foreign minister, or even the Uk's?
================================

Fred why are you such a thick moron , Emily Thornbury is the shadow Foreign Minister and she didn't know any of her counterparts , is that not wrong ?

When you post the rubbish that you do you make yourself look really stupid and then you insist on calling people names .

Fred1new - 16 Sep 2016 09:03 - 5346 of 12628

Brexit I know is all self-control but didn't realise that it meant having your power controlled from Paris and Beijing.

It is all right though, as Theresa has it all under her control.

Is the government going to be seen as in charge of the greatest British sell-out?

The biggest Con in years?

jimmy b - 16 Sep 2016 09:10 - 5347 of 12628

Should she have known who the French foreign minister was Fred
(wouldn't matter to me if it was a Labour or Tory who looked like an idiot on TV )

Why would you defend such stupidity ?

VICTIM - 16 Sep 2016 09:11 - 5348 of 12628

Once you get your teeth into something you don't let go do you , should be a guard dog woof woof . To be honest you come across as a bit sad .

grannyboy - 16 Sep 2016 09:27 - 5349 of 12628

"having your power controlled from Paris and Beijing"

They call it free world trade.


On the subject of Emily Thornberry not knowing the name of the French foreign
minister...

I bet they've never heard of emily thornberry either...After all she's instantly
forgetable..LOL!

Fred1new - 16 Sep 2016 09:39 - 5350 of 12628

Vicky,

Surprisingly, I feel quite happy!

-=-=

You will have to have an effigy of "free world trade" on your bedroom wall and ask where has all the Farage and little UKIPPER's control gone?



VICTIM - 16 Sep 2016 09:44 - 5351 of 12628

Quite happy eh , only because you see plenty to moan about , right wrong good or bad .

jimmy b - 16 Sep 2016 09:53 - 5352 of 12628

It is quite moronic to make the quotes Fred makes and not justify them .

A bit the same as he is off to Calais soon but won't help the chancers at the jungle ,he wouldn't go anywhere near the place.

Fred1new - 16 Sep 2016 10:00 - 5353 of 12628

Dumbo,

I wouldn't wish to meet you when you are dossing out in the "Calais jungle" and will avoid the area.

VICTIM - 16 Sep 2016 10:02 - 5354 of 12628

I think he misses out Calais altogether jimmy , goes some other route , he's very committed to his causes you know .

jimmy b - 16 Sep 2016 10:08 - 5355 of 12628

All mouth ,like most drunks.

Fred1new - 16 Sep 2016 10:37 - 5356 of 12628

Dumbo.

You seem to me, to have great knowledge of such and still suffering the after effects.

--=-=-==


jimmy b - 16 Sep 2016 10:47 - 5357 of 12628

I don't drink Fred told you that before but i guess you can't remember .also post 5354 ,why would i be in the Calais Jungle , you will avoid the area because you are a typical hypocrite ,one who sits in his chair shouting and would do nothing to help.

Fred1new - 16 Sep 2016 11:17 - 5358 of 12628

Are you sure?

Strange, for me, your utterances belie those statements.

-=-=-=-=

Have a better day.

grannyboy - 16 Sep 2016 13:20 - 5359 of 12628

On the Daily Politics program they had a report from Bratislava, and one of the
pieces reported were regarding a european army and they had a couple of these
euro fanatics giving their views, obviously stating they were in favour, then
it went back to the studio's and Andrew Neil stated to the two MP's that were there
that both of them had denied before the referendum that a european army
was planned and that they'd castagated the LEAVE side for stating that was going
to happen.

But this woman MEP said it was just a story, totally ignoring the fact these
statements were coming straight from the horses mouths...Can you believe
how much these people are still in denial......

Fred1new - 16 Sep 2016 13:40 - 5360 of 12628

Many think it would be a sensible move for an EU joint military forces and R+D.

Britain out of the EU makes it easier to happen.

Think USA wants out of NATO and its expenses.


cynic - 16 Sep 2016 14:07 - 5361 of 12628

fred - do you think that the brexit vote has proved to be the catalyst in galvanising action by the french and germans in particular, to tackle the deep dissatisfaction and more felt across all member states, especially with regard to the immigration issue and all that that entails?

grannyboy - 16 Sep 2016 14:17 - 5362 of 12628

The USA puts in 70% of the cost and manpower in NATO, if they get pissed off
they could leave europe to stew. Because with the UK leaving the EU, so not
joining any euro army, the main responsibility will fall on France's armed forces..
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